If your friend reaches out to you with a good deal, says they have investors on board, everything looks good, and you're not being asked to change your opinions or content...you take the deal.
I guess that's the difference between me and everyone here, if I get money for essentially doing exactly what I've been doing I would be suspicious as fuck, everyone else seems to think this is normal.
But, you're not doing everything the same...your content is the same, but you're bringing it to a different platform, which benefits that platform.
Take your game, for example. And this was actually happening all the time when Epic Game Store was trying to get in on the market. Say your game gets some level of fame before your 1.0 release. You're independent, doing your thing. Now say Epic reaches out, and says they want your game exclusively on their platform for X time, but you retain all control. You're doing the exact same thing, you're not beholden to anyone, but you're now giving Epic value by being on their platform, and drawing people who were interested in your game there.
Now, I'm not even saying you should take that hypothetical deal, and I'm personally no fan of Epic, but it's not inherently sleezy (unless you've made promises to other platforms, which was part of the controversy around Epic), it's above board, and it may very well be an excellent deal for you. Again, you don't have to change anything, and you get more money. It's why so many people did jump at that.
That's essentially what Tenet was doing; they wanted names with some draw to provide some exclusive content, but did not themselves have any editorial control over said content. Take Tim Pool; they had him license a show he was already producing to their network. Everything was the same but the channel.
I wouldn't take a deal from Epic no, I guess I must be insane to people but yes that's how much I hate glowies and dislike foreign governments messing with my shit and yes I would research or investigate into people who might send me offers, ideally though I would much rather make money from direct sales alone.
That's essentially what Tenet was doing; they wanted names with some draw to provide some exclusive content, but did not themselves have any editorial control over said content. Take Tim Pool; they had him license a show he was already producing to their network. Everything was the same but the channel.
By itself there is absolutely nothing wrong with this, the issue is the foreign nature of the organisation itself and it potentially having ties to the Russians. You can hate the DOJ and I absolutely believe this is politically motivated this I all agree with, what I can't agree with the rest of the site on ( As it turns out ) is the idea that just because of a technicality where they were never directly asked about their opinions or told to change anything doesn't mean it's not shady as fuck.
Yes, it was a reputation smear, people are right about that as well, however I don't think any reasonable person can deny unless they're being a fanboi or extremely tribal that they didn't set themselves up here.
I wouldn't take a deal from Epic no, I guess I must be insane to people
No. Again, completely missing the point. I'm not saying "take the deal," I'm saying it's alright and understandable to take the deal.
By itself there is absolutely nothing wrong with this
Yeah.
...the issue is the foreign nature of the organisation itself and it potentially having ties to the Russians.
The organization is not foreign. The investors were not Russian on paper, but may have been Russian citizens, perhaps either planted or allowed by US feds. Again, though, nowhere is it alleged any content was changed, or any creator was doing the bidding of Russia.
Even if the allegations are completely true, it still doesn't make the creators the bad guys, and the DOJ, media, and bots still end up looking awful.
You can hate the DOJ and I absolutely believe this is politically motivated this I all agree with, what I can't agree with the rest of the site on ( As it turns out ) is the idea that just because of a technicality where they were never directly asked about their opinions or told to change anything doesn't mean it's not shady as fuck.
You keep saying how this is a government trap...but then blaming the victims. Weird as fuck. And, look, it's not a "technicality" if you get to produce whatever you want, and are just paid to do so on a particular channel. That's pretty dang exonerating.
Yes, it was a reputation smear, people are right about that as well, however I don't think any reasonable person can deny unless they're being a fanboi or extremely tribal that they didn't set themselves up here.
You keep saying how this is a government trap...but then blaming the victims. Weird as fuck.
No, I'm not, that's your misrepresentation yet again
The organization is not foreign. The investors were not Russian on paper, but may have been Russian citizens, perhaps either planted or allowed by US feds. Again, though, nowhere is it alleged any content was changed, or any creator was doing the bidding of Russia.
You've referenced Tencent before, that's like claiming that Tencent isn't foreign because they've set up some kind of technically western branch and they're owned by a citizen. No idea why this site has such blinders on in this particular case.
it's not a "technicality" if you get to produce whatever you want, and are just paid to do so on a particular channel. That's pretty dang exonerating.
People don't just randomly hand out large wads of cash for people to keep doing what they're doing, that's not how businesses work which is why the whole thing stinks to high heaven for me
I guess that's the difference between me and everyone here, if I get money for essentially doing exactly what I've been doing I would be suspicious as fuck, everyone else seems to think this is normal.
But, you're not doing everything the same...your content is the same, but you're bringing it to a different platform, which benefits that platform.
Take your game, for example. And this was actually happening all the time when Epic Game Store was trying to get in on the market. Say your game gets some level of fame before your 1.0 release. You're independent, doing your thing. Now say Epic reaches out, and says they want your game exclusively on their platform for X time, but you retain all control. You're doing the exact same thing, you're not beholden to anyone, but you're now giving Epic value by being on their platform, and drawing people who were interested in your game there.
Now, I'm not even saying you should take that hypothetical deal, and I'm personally no fan of Epic, but it's not inherently sleezy (unless you've made promises to other platforms, which was part of the controversy around Epic), it's above board, and it may very well be an excellent deal for you. Again, you don't have to change anything, and you get more money. It's why so many people did jump at that.
That's essentially what Tenet was doing; they wanted names with some draw to provide some exclusive content, but did not themselves have any editorial control over said content. Take Tim Pool; they had him license a show he was already producing to their network. Everything was the same but the channel.
I wouldn't take a deal from Epic no, I guess I must be insane to people but yes that's how much I hate glowies and dislike foreign governments messing with my shit and yes I would research or investigate into people who might send me offers, ideally though I would much rather make money from direct sales alone.
By itself there is absolutely nothing wrong with this, the issue is the foreign nature of the organisation itself and it potentially having ties to the Russians. You can hate the DOJ and I absolutely believe this is politically motivated this I all agree with, what I can't agree with the rest of the site on ( As it turns out ) is the idea that just because of a technicality where they were never directly asked about their opinions or told to change anything doesn't mean it's not shady as fuck.
Yes, it was a reputation smear, people are right about that as well, however I don't think any reasonable person can deny unless they're being a fanboi or extremely tribal that they didn't set themselves up here.
No. Again, completely missing the point. I'm not saying "take the deal," I'm saying it's alright and understandable to take the deal.
Yeah.
The organization is not foreign. The investors were not Russian on paper, but may have been Russian citizens, perhaps either planted or allowed by US feds. Again, though, nowhere is it alleged any content was changed, or any creator was doing the bidding of Russia.
Even if the allegations are completely true, it still doesn't make the creators the bad guys, and the DOJ, media, and bots still end up looking awful.
You keep saying how this is a government trap...but then blaming the victims. Weird as fuck. And, look, it's not a "technicality" if you get to produce whatever you want, and are just paid to do so on a particular channel. That's pretty dang exonerating.
Are you being intentionally dense, or...?
No, I'm not, that's your misrepresentation yet again
You've referenced Tencent before, that's like claiming that Tencent isn't foreign because they've set up some kind of technically western branch and they're owned by a citizen. No idea why this site has such blinders on in this particular case.
People don't just randomly hand out large wads of cash for people to keep doing what they're doing, that's not how businesses work which is why the whole thing stinks to high heaven for me
No you fuckers are