Yeah but why are we supposed to care though? I don't watch ecelebs, but what exactly is so bad about someone getting money from a foreign state TV broadcaster - which was interchangeable with any other scummy state broadcaster on the globe up until the gay slavic proxy war happened and now it's verboten - to say apparently sensible things that anyone could realise on their own anyway. If there are people out there who genuinely need Lauren Chen to help them reach obvious conclusions, and if Lauren Chen genuinely needs foreign money and scripts to put those perspectives out, then that money is practically charity. I don't give a fuck.
The larger picture is that this is just a flex for western governments to start threatening influencers with the law if they don't parrot CurrentThing. There are so many unfriendly foreign parties investing in everything that it's trivial to start retroactively painting anybody you want to as an agent. When will it apply to Tencent money? I'm certain it won't apply to anyone getting money from Israel any time soon, anyway.
You're right in that them receiving money by itself isn't a big deal but this is where it always gets blatantly shady with youtubers.
. They often don't publicly disclose they are getting money from a foreign government, likely because they're wary of the potential backlash from their audience
. The reason they're wary about fan backlash is they often do an edgy anti-establishment larp so being part of a government just because it's foreign would inevitably bother or piss off a lot of people who previously like them for that and thought they were legit
. They're farming one source of income publicly and the other secretly, which brings into question their entire credibility by itself, if they had just owned up from the beginning they were taking foreign money I doubt it wouldn't have ever been an issue.
. They often milk their audience by doing a poor and oppressed larp, do you know how much money youtubers get for shilling for government agencies? It's a lot, I'm sure there are figures floating around given how much of a scandal it all is but I remember the Clinton campaign being a particularly infamous example plus there were incidents with youtubers getting China money
. Knowing all of this, it's easy to understand why fans would end up being pissed off realising that these shitheads are all just grifters doing a larp and lying their arses off about their situations for sympathy and money because how often have you seen e-begging going on?
I love it when people try and make these arguments, because then you can lay it out point by point in detail on why they're wrong lol because it's such a vague gotcha attempt. Do you know anything about the MrBeast situation? It's going to be a similar thing where the more we peel back the layers the more we realise oh my god this is actually fucked.
Is there any evidence of 'fans getting pissed off' with Chen over this or is it a synthetic news narrative pushed entirely by the US govt, in order to put influencers in fear of legal reprisal for following the wrong script? All this convoluted intrigue about RT money cloaks the fact that the 2 Russians indicted are 'at large' because they're in Russia, so this is entirely for show. They will never face any kind of trial unless maybe they're dumb enough to start jetsetting through WEF-run countries.
where it gets shady with youtubers
And what you've said mostly applies generically to all youtubers, though MrBeast's scandal to my understanding is about a geek covering for his tranny groomer friend, so I don't see how it compares.
In recent memory Disney ran practically all the biggest names in the space, including Pewdiepie up until 2017 when they dropped him for 'anti-semitism'. There's still loads of nebulous 'Creators Studios' running people like this. We can quibble over whether or not every big money interest is an actor for a foreign state, but we also know that that propaganda doesn't require that level of directness in the era of globohomo. The biggest propaganda push nowadays is essentially stateless or else comes from what our own governments would consider as allied nations. When are we going to hear about anyone punished for working with Britain's 77th Brigade, GCHQ and JTRIG? Never.
It's safest to assume ANY well-known influencer is compromised to some degree. Example, the internet starts clucking about MatPat quitting... Never heard of the guy so I look him up. Oh right, turns out this is a guy who personally 'interviewed' Antony Fauci as a vaccine propaganda advert on his GAMING channel in 2021. Do people think he did that for free? Seems people weren't thinking about it at all, because I was the only one criticising this connection anywhere I looked, except the comments of the original video. People are so used to being propagandised to their faces and thinking it's fine, that they're now conditioned to salivating at 'discovering' the propaganda their masters tell them has gone on behind their backs.
Nobody's pointed to anything specific Chen has said that she wouldn't have said without the influence of RT money, yet I can very definitely point to things my country's media have said which they would never have said without the influence of the US government. I absolutely refuse to pretend to give a fuck about any of this theatre and that's coming from someone who's relatively hardline anti-Russia compared to most, at a guess.
"I think Chen might be an agent..."
"IDK, I don't think Chen is an agent!"
Yeah but why are we supposed to care though? I don't watch ecelebs, but what exactly is so bad about someone getting money from a foreign state TV broadcaster - which was interchangeable with any other scummy state broadcaster on the globe up until the gay slavic proxy war happened and now it's verboten - to say apparently sensible things that anyone could realise on their own anyway. If there are people out there who genuinely need Lauren Chen to help them reach obvious conclusions, and if Lauren Chen genuinely needs foreign money and scripts to put those perspectives out, then that money is practically charity. I don't give a fuck.
The larger picture is that this is just a flex for western governments to start threatening influencers with the law if they don't parrot CurrentThing. There are so many unfriendly foreign parties investing in everything that it's trivial to start retroactively painting anybody you want to as an agent. When will it apply to Tencent money? I'm certain it won't apply to anyone getting money from Israel any time soon, anyway.
You're right in that them receiving money by itself isn't a big deal but this is where it always gets blatantly shady with youtubers.
. They often don't publicly disclose they are getting money from a foreign government, likely because they're wary of the potential backlash from their audience
. The reason they're wary about fan backlash is they often do an edgy anti-establishment larp so being part of a government just because it's foreign would inevitably bother or piss off a lot of people who previously like them for that and thought they were legit
. They're farming one source of income publicly and the other secretly, which brings into question their entire credibility by itself, if they had just owned up from the beginning they were taking foreign money I doubt it wouldn't have ever been an issue.
. They often milk their audience by doing a poor and oppressed larp, do you know how much money youtubers get for shilling for government agencies? It's a lot, I'm sure there are figures floating around given how much of a scandal it all is but I remember the Clinton campaign being a particularly infamous example plus there were incidents with youtubers getting China money
. Knowing all of this, it's easy to understand why fans would end up being pissed off realising that these shitheads are all just grifters doing a larp and lying their arses off about their situations for sympathy and money because how often have you seen e-begging going on?
I love it when people try and make these arguments, because then you can lay it out point by point in detail on why they're wrong lol because it's such a vague gotcha attempt. Do you know anything about the MrBeast situation? It's going to be a similar thing where the more we peel back the layers the more we realise oh my god this is actually fucked.
Is there any evidence of 'fans getting pissed off' with Chen over this or is it a synthetic news narrative pushed entirely by the US govt, in order to put influencers in fear of legal reprisal for following the wrong script? All this convoluted intrigue about RT money cloaks the fact that the 2 Russians indicted are 'at large' because they're in Russia, so this is entirely for show. They will never face any kind of trial unless maybe they're dumb enough to start jetsetting through WEF-run countries.
And what you've said mostly applies generically to all youtubers, though MrBeast's scandal to my understanding is about a geek covering for his tranny groomer friend, so I don't see how it compares.
In recent memory Disney ran practically all the biggest names in the space, including Pewdiepie up until 2017 when they dropped him for 'anti-semitism'. There's still loads of nebulous 'Creators Studios' running people like this. We can quibble over whether or not every big money interest is an actor for a foreign state, but we also know that that propaganda doesn't require that level of directness in the era of globohomo. The biggest propaganda push nowadays is essentially stateless or else comes from what our own governments would consider as allied nations. When are we going to hear about anyone punished for working with Britain's 77th Brigade, GCHQ and JTRIG? Never.
It's safest to assume ANY well-known influencer is compromised to some degree. Example, the internet starts clucking about MatPat quitting... Never heard of the guy so I look him up. Oh right, turns out this is a guy who personally 'interviewed' Antony Fauci as a vaccine propaganda advert on his GAMING channel in 2021. Do people think he did that for free? Seems people weren't thinking about it at all, because I was the only one criticising this connection anywhere I looked, except the comments of the original video. People are so used to being propagandised to their faces and thinking it's fine, that they're now conditioned to salivating at 'discovering' the propaganda their masters tell them has gone on behind their backs.
Nobody's pointed to anything specific Chen has said that she wouldn't have said without the influence of RT money, yet I can very definitely point to things my country's media have said which they would never have said without the influence of the US government. I absolutely refuse to pretend to give a fuck about any of this theatre and that's coming from someone who's relatively hardline anti-Russia compared to most, at a guess.