Forgive me then, I am far too used to people who are much more unwilling to even hear the criticisms that I skipped over civility.
As well as being localised to specific territories, while other territories experienced very little problems.
Right, but the places where Indian savages were running amok, I'd wager were also the places with white guys also being less than noble. I'd even say they'd be retarded to not be given the circumstances, with the coyotes howling at their doors.
Which was the point of conversation, Indians were creatures of horror in the deserts and in the stories to be told about about that fact you could have plenty of less than noble white men too because it was a place where an Outlaw could exist. And they were still less bad than the red men.
If there was no peace and prosperity to be had, it would have never been settled. But I also have lived in towns that were devoid of crime or madness 90% of the year, and then a local nigger gang would sweep through and turn it into a lawless nightmare for a few weeks until the cops could catch up and drive them out.
I've never doubted most of it was just normal frontier living. But on the flipside, all the "lawless wild west" stories are also the most interesting and fun parts of that time, even if they were 0.1% of it. Its why Westerns appealed to people so much regardless of the Elite's intentions with them.
I will respond to this in full later; things to do and all that.
I think we actually agree on much of the basics, we merely approach the "entirety" of the WW differently. As a whole I think it was one of the best times to be alive in all of human history, but it was a very unique period of time and place where their was no real external threat. The savagery of the natives and the mexicans (both contained to specific locations and times) was nothing compared to the competing nations of other periods and times, such as the shifting tides of the Moorish invasions and the Crusades and the "total war" period of Europe.
Forgive me then, I am far too used to people who are much more unwilling to even hear the criticisms that I skipped over civility.
Right, but the places where Indian savages were running amok, I'd wager were also the places with white guys also being less than noble. I'd even say they'd be retarded to not be given the circumstances, with the coyotes howling at their doors.
Which was the point of conversation, Indians were creatures of horror in the deserts and in the stories to be told about about that fact you could have plenty of less than noble white men too because it was a place where an Outlaw could exist. And they were still less bad than the red men.
If there was no peace and prosperity to be had, it would have never been settled. But I also have lived in towns that were devoid of crime or madness 90% of the year, and then a local nigger gang would sweep through and turn it into a lawless nightmare for a few weeks until the cops could catch up and drive them out.
I've never doubted most of it was just normal frontier living. But on the flipside, all the "lawless wild west" stories are also the most interesting and fun parts of that time, even if they were 0.1% of it. Its why Westerns appealed to people so much regardless of the Elite's intentions with them.
I will respond to this in full later; things to do and all that.
I think we actually agree on much of the basics, we merely approach the "entirety" of the WW differently. As a whole I think it was one of the best times to be alive in all of human history, but it was a very unique period of time and place where their was no real external threat. The savagery of the natives and the mexicans (both contained to specific locations and times) was nothing compared to the competing nations of other periods and times, such as the shifting tides of the Moorish invasions and the Crusades and the "total war" period of Europe.