Hi there,
It's been a while since I last posted here (I usually don't have anything constructive to say that adds to the conversation), but I've come across a topic of late which I simply have to ask you guys about.
I'm sure that at least a decent amount of the people who browse this forum know of the website called Kiwifarms. If not, I suppose you can google it, though I'm sure you won't get a just description of what that website is all about from the likes of Google. To put it in the simplest terms, Kiwifarms is mainly a gossiping forum about chiefly Internet-celebrities and their often silly shenanigans. These people are called "lolcows", simply because they "produce milk" through their tomfoolery that the users of the website can enjoy (I hate the term "lolcow" by the way: it's apt in describing the "milking of odd and silly people for laughs", but it's such a childish and "edgy" term that I just can't use it seriously).
Other than gossiping and "milking" Internet-personalities for laughs, it's a forum in which you can discuss almost anything. One of the liberating aspects of the website, which is almost unheard of on the Internet nowadays, is that there is no handholding, and that you can say the "n-word" and "tranny" freely. It's basically a haven for political incorrectness, but there is also a generally agreed upon culture and code of conduct on the website that hinders it from spiraling out of control.
What Kiwifarms and this forum has in common, then, as far as I'm concerned at least, is that they both encourage non-politically correct discourse (within reason, of course).
I've browsed and used Kiwifarms for several years now, and since some time ago, I've noticed an ever growing trend taking place on the website, which I find to be deeply unfortunate: radical feminists and what I can only describe as "white knights" are more or less "infiltrating" general discourse on the website in order to hurl accusations about "inceldom" and such. There's a subsection of Kiwifarms called the "Beauty Parlor", in which some part of the clique of radical feminists and white knights seem to be content in keeping the majority of their discourse in. One of the more popular threads in there is the "Man-hate thread", and you wouldn't believe the shit that's said about men in there. All men or anyone who questions the "manhating" discourse is promptly banned, and are mocked by the community of radical feminists and white knights.
I'm not an incel, nor am I a rampant misogynist of any kind, but like many who engage in more politically incorrect and "based" (for a lack of a better word) discourse, I do have my misgivings with modern women, which I've been able to express in a rational way on Kiwifarms before without being "jumped" by irate feminists and white knights.
What's more is that the owner of Kiwifarms, Joshua Connor Moon, seems to clearly be favoring these radical feminists (also called "femoids" in response to their usage of the term "moid", which is a derogatory term by women and soyboys for men) and white knights over any person who wish to tell these very same people to shut the fuck up and to keep their misandry to themselves. He's regularly inserting himself into conversations, lamenting how "woman haters" wants to deny women "the ability to vote and to be able to treat them like sex slaves" and other such nonsense. When the radical feminists receive the odd clapback, Joshua Connor Moon is often there to lambast the silly men of how insecure and pathetic they are for attacking the poor women who have found refuge in his community. Whenever a feminist writes about how much she hates men and how she wish her son was actually a daughter, he doesn't seem to care one bit, and it negatively affects the overall climate of the forum (at least if you're not a radical feminist or soyboy).
Joshua seem to be somewhat "based" in several aspects, but as far as I can tell, he's completely lost the plot in regards to the TERF:s of this world (Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists). It's one thing to support women being trans exclusionary, but he also seems to rejoice in the "radical feminist"-aspect of their little movement as well, which is deeply disappointing. I believe that him being the target of transsexuals, who are attempting to bring down his website through all kinds of underhanded means, have broken his otherwise naive perception of the dynamic of men and women in general. My conclusion is that he believes himself to be a savior of sorts for the women of the world, who have no other place to turn to in order to unload about their hatred of transsexual men. Somehow, this also extends towards being sympathetic towards the women's hatred of men in general, which I just find baffling.
This is one of the trends that I've noticed which I despise. Another sad trend that I've noticed emerging on there is how there's been some sort of development of what I can only describe as an "Anonymous-esque" kind of frenzy being stirred by both old and new users. What I mean by this is the emergence of the whole "We are Anonymous — we do not forget, we do not forgive"-teenage-kind-of-edginess being fostered. As if Kiwifarms is some sort of collective of "Anonymous-hackers" or whatever. It's embarrassing beyond belief.
I've experienced more and more of these radical feminists and soyboys acting out, with the blessings of Joshua Connor Moon, and how the very edgy part of the website is starting to get out of control. As such, I would like to ask you guys if you know of any website besides Kiwifarms and this one that encourages at least somewhat politically incorrect discussion without being obtuse about it and without promoting radical feminist agendas?
Thank you for coming to my TED-talk.
What the fuck are you talking about? As someone that's been watching Mad At The Internet for years now, I gotta say.. you are either full of shit, or in some sort of delusion. Josh is many things, but how you paint it ain't it. Like even a little. Josh is obsessed, and I mean obsessed with the Internet and how it's core tenants are being trampled on by the main big websites trying to control what happens on it. That is his white whale. He never even comes close to giving a shit about women issues or their politics. That, and watching BossmanJack crumble into dust.
I've certainly read very similar critiques of Null having two-tier moderation for TERFs on KF very often, so it's not simply OP's own impressions.
I tend to avoid those big male-female slapfight threads though personally.
People on the dissident right cucking out to gender criticals despite the fact they are sexist towards men is a common complaint about alot of people.
Sounds like Null should have implemented a zero tolerance policy for sexism towards men, along with banning gender criticals from repeating other bullshit popular with the regressive left like objectification theory, defense of intersectionalism, conspiracy theories about racism, defending communism, etc.
I heartily recommend you spend some more time on the actual Kiwifarms forums if you're going to have an opinion on the matter, dipshit. Merely watching Joshua Connor Moon's streams obviously don't cut it.
I'd like at the very least a fucking archive screenshot of some of the shit you claim him to be saying at the very least. Because what you say is quite damning and incredibly spergish. As you said. However, my brother in Christ. You are asking me to dig though a haystack for rusty needles. If you want to put a hit piece of someone I want some fucking quotes. Show me pictures of Spider-Man!
Also, it's one single section of the website. Among MANY other areas. To blanket the entirety of the userbase for one area of retards is super delusional. Each part of the board has obsessive nutjobs that are specifically tailored for those regions of thing.
And that's the only reason anyone puts up with his retardation. Because without that he is an awkward sperg who can barely handle ever being told he is wrong or making a situation worse.
I have a lot of respect for the guy, his crusade and sacrifices. But that doesn't make him above reproach or not a fucking hermit with no social skills.
This nigger didn't pay attention to the Gender War problem that has been ongoing for a year now.
He literally banned a bunch of guys last week for daring to insult some of the "women" on the farms, and continuously says that its men's fault that women vote retarded and run into Woke shit. He gave the women a dedicated thread where you get banned from an entire section if you post there as a man and says consistently that women posting about fat chicks is the "True KF [he] wants to return to."
You should try actually being on the site instead of just watching MATI, where he will crop up in random places and sperg the fuck out at people while his sycophants (like you) fly in behind him to attack anyone who dares insult their Feeder.
Thank you very much for your reply, and I'm so sorry for my late one. I've kind of had to take my time to digest the responses from the thread after I wrote my humongous OP.
I can only conclude after the recent development on the website that Null/Joshua Connor Moon is indeed a chubby little faggot. Here's the thread at the center of the recent development:
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/pitch-womens-only-app-enforced-by-3rd-party-id-verification.199736/
Mommas boy Null wants to create a "women's only online space" verified via third party actors. Needless to say, this spectacularly retarded idea did not go over well with everyone, much to the chubby boy's chagrin. The responses from most of the supposedly males in that thread is disappointing, to put it mildly. "I-I-I k-know that I'm a-a man, and th-that I'm not r-really allowed to h-h-have an opinion, b-b-but you go girls!" I thought Kiwifarms was immune to soyboys and radical feminists, but I was so wrong.
He really is a little child who can't take no for an answer. He even fucked off to Serbia to run his drama-website, if I recall, and his mother does not want anythings to do with him. Indeed, he is a supreme lolcow himself. As you say, his sacrifices, retarded as they are in the grand scheme of things, do provide the rest of us with a place where we can freely say the "n-word", but man, there's no denying that the guy really is a little shit.
I was there when he banned a bunch of users for a week. In typical Null-fashion, he shoots from his hip as he pleases, all because of his infantile temper tantrums. I also know of his supremely idiotic attempt at painting the section "Beauty Parlor" as the "true and honest Kiwifarms". Again, like I state in the OP, I think it's because the pudgy little simp believes he's some sort of savior for biologically real women in this world, on account of his own battles again transsexuals. It's such a pathetic delusion on his part.
Anyways, it's good to see that I'm not the only one to realize what a shitshow the "ooperator" of Kiwifarms is! :-)
He almost certainly has ODD or has just socially isolated himself for so long that his social skills have deteriorated into nothing.
Which means that nobody can tell him anything, he reacts defiantly to even the mildest of advice or criticism (so much so the catchphrase "who are you to tell me what to do" can be contributed to him), and his legion of ballwashers and sycophants keep contributing further and further to the problem.
I've simply stopped going to a lot of sections just because its too much drama, and its always centered around him coming in, throwing his toys out about how awful everyone is, and then a few more rules for only some users crop into existence so he can feel good about himself.
It is what it is, he can continue to isolate himself into paranoid madness for the sake of some e-pussy. It doesn't really effect me beyond a mild disappointment and I will continue to wish him the best because of his otherwise remarkable efforts and respectable actions.
That is an admirable attitude, one which I should strive to adpot myself. I am currently a bit too jaded with Joshua's shenanigans to view his efforts in quite such a positive light, however.
As you say, his efforts are commendable, but considering how he's degenerated lately I can't help but see the absolute sperg that is behind these efforts, and this realization does sully the splendor of these very efforts. The way he plays favorites with users is especially grating to me.
Oh well, it is what it is, as you say.
Josh is a chomo. 100%
Upvote. OP specifically seeks out a thread called the "Man-hate thread" and then proceeds to unfairly smear the entire website for it, even though the vast majority of KF users are busy posting elsewhere and not engaging in this dumb shit. Also conveniently ignores that there's an equivalent "Woman-hate" thread. It's a very strange take.