The old manosphere was great for comparing notes on what was going on. But the old red pill sites are mostly gone and have been replaced by a great deal of astro turf. Lately, I have noticed people aren't very friendly in public anymore. Asked around to some of the locals and they have told me no one goes out. Have to search to find people.
Also, I was talking with a younger dude who spends his summers going up to Alaska to work. I have known guys who have done that but didn't realize there was an extensive network of guys who do it. From what I gather a good chunk of these guys don't have wives or girlfriends, most are in their twenties but not all. The guy in question is tall, good looking, a very hard worker and a very nice guy. He made it sound like he didn't expect to get a girlfriend anytime soon, and didn't really expect to meet one. I have also known military guys who basically just dropped out of society and traveled. Also nice dudes. And then there was all the gym bros who dropped out after the Tiktok gals started harassing people at the local gyms.
How many young guys have just dropped out of society? I mean, all the dudes I cited are fit, good looking dudes. Just gone. It's hard to tell with the red pill videos as a good chunk of those guys are salesman selling their product, but how bad is it really now? Especially post covid. How many men just dropped out altogether? I'm getting the impression from this anecdotal evidence that it's getting worse, as there is always guys who drop out... But the majority didn't used to be dudes in their prime who were fit and good looking.
Oh absolutely, I agree with you about the red pill podcaster types just to completely confirm your prejudices, they're usually full of shit, not just in the fact that they're trying to sell a product but their whole lifestyle is fake. They're often either on steroids to look the way they are ( A lot of the male fitness youtubers are widely using them and lying about it ) or they're trying to pretend they get laid tons when in actual fact they're paying women to have sex with them or pretend to be their girlfriends for the sake of marketing.
Red Pill types aside, yes men are definitely checking out, I do think it's a good idea though as you have done to defer to the military type guys and gym bros who will definitely have zero problems getting girlfriends. You know it's bad when even the gym bros are avoiding women like the plague and it's because of the recent attention seeking behaviour and false accusations from thots.
So what can men do really other than fuck off? Western society is actively hostile to white western men especially and so they've clearly either gone into the wilderness to wait out the shit heads or they've gone abroad if they can afford to. Just looking at it from a professional perspective as well if you can afford to leave or have the means to go to a much nicer foreign country it makes zero sense to stay if you can make money on lower income tax alone. Plus there's the whole thing of not needing to deal with all the crap that comes with a feminist run society on a personal level so it's no wonder this is happening.
Oh and this post is pretty detailed I know but I've been keeping a bit of an eye on this situation too and there's a lot of video confessionals yet again popping up from women and they're constantly asking where guys are. They don't understand that men their age or younger have fucked off or are working and avoiding them lol.