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Are Diablo fans getting too old for the old-school item grind?
posted 1 year ago by redneonglow PRO 1 year ago by redneonglow PRO +14 / -3

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2024/06/are-diablo-fans-getting-too-old-for-the-old-school-item-grind/

https://archive.ph/Hc8EI

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– 1776ReasonsWhy 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

I feel like these guys are making terrible assumptions about the playerbase of modern Diablo games. They write in the article, near the end, that a 16-year-old in the D2 days is now pushing 40, and thinking that's still the playerbase of D4. Why is it not possible that their audience is is just the modern day zoomer who expects epic items very quickly, and rejects this "old school" grind? How likely is it that their core audience is made up of those 40-year-olds still?

Does D4 even play as well as D2 does/did? I finally quit WoW after nearly 14 years because the BfA expansion made every class I touched feel so terrible to play. I liked hitting my buttons and when they ruined that I felt there was nothing left for me to enjoy. If D4 feels awful to play, D2 vets wouldn't stick around and would just go back to D2, leaving a younger generation trained on paying MTX fees to skip timesinks.

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– fauxgnaws 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

Watched this divorce lawyer interview and at one point he talks about this like 80 year old guy who's wife divorced him for cheating and how depressing that was to realize that he'll never stop wanting to chase after women, ever.

It's like that. You don't age out of Diablo 2, or Left 4 Dead, or Unreal Tournament 2004, or Team Fortress (minus bots). Great games like these will always be fun at any age.

Their problem is they're making games that aren't fun. Diablo 4 is like chewing gum that's on the 2' high shelf so kids see it; it tastes sweet for 2 seconds then it's like chewing petroleum waste.

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– Hoofa 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

You don't age out of Diablo 2, or Left 4 Dead, or Unreal Tournament 2004, or Team Fortress (minus bots). Great games like these will always be fun at any age.

Speaking as a Left 4 Dead fan, how accessable is D2? Cos it's not on steam or anything.

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– fauxgnaws 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

D2 is old enough you can play it in virtualbox, so I would just torrent it and do that. I'd never run a pirated game outside a VM though.

Or you can get it from battle.net if you really want to give Blizzard $10.

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