This was so pointless, and I couldn't figure out what anyone was pissy about, that I just decided to read and respond to the article. It's a stupid waste of time, but here we are. Also, even having read the article...I'm still having trouble finding out what leftists are upset over...and what conservatives are allegedly obsessed over. This is, as they say, a nothinburger. But let's get to it.
...some conservatives online launched a senseless and downright misogynistic conversation about femininity.
Leftists talk stupid. Yup, that's the response.
...a lackluster Hooters-themed sketch.
I'm actually inclined to cede this; I haven't seen it, but SNL is generally lackluster. However, it's hilarious leftists have finally found an SNL episode they don't like.
But the absolutely demented conversation that followed is a sure sign of how ridiculous the socially conservative discourse around women’s bodily autonomy, the media and “wokeness” has become.
Journo still isn't presenting any demented conversation. Also not sure how "autonomy" fits in.
In her National Post piece...“We’ve spent years being chastised for desiring or admiring beauty – because beauty is rare and exclusionary, and to exclude is to hate - or so we’ve been scolded..."
Firstly, her point is correct. Secondly...she's a woman. This shit is even dumber than I thought.
Hamm is being intentionally obtuse here.
This is not the last time the butthurt journo does some mind reading. And to a woman, no less. If women are being misogynistic, can they also "mansplain?" Because this is pretty mansplainy.
Beauty has always been political...
Nah, fuck off, communist.
Ogling Sweeney also isn’t the revolutionary act that conservatives desperately want it to be...
Journo still hasn't presented ogling. There's been appreciation...largely from women. Again, this whole piece is even more stupid and pointless than the titles lead me to believe.
...seeing as society’s obsession with skinny, blonde, large-breasted women never went anywhere.
Oh, just call her a bimbo slut and be done with it, feminist harpy.
The writer Bridget Phetasy struck a similar tone as Hamm...
These damn misogynists!
Framing Sweeney’s appearance as a return to “real body positivity” (yes that’s literally what the Spectator headline reads) is sinister obfuscation.
We've got a twofer; more mind reading, and very disingenuous framing.
This isn’t about body positivity or body neutrality or anything that purports to be good or inclusive of women’s body sizes...
Body positivity can go in the trash where it belongs. Fat people - especially very fat people - men or women, shouldn't be "accepted," unless they're actively in the process of losing weight. "Healthy at any size" is a blatant lie, and fatties are killing themselves. So, yeah, screw "inclusiveness."
...Sweeney was never on the outside. She is a white, very conventionally attractive woman, the same kind of woman that mainstream media in the west has worshiped for an eternity, while working hard to disparage larger bodies.
This whole article is so fucking stupid, and I'm already slowing down. Show the disparagement. Also, I knew race would come into it. Also, yeah, they used to be worshipped...nowadays they get shit articles like this written if they appear in public in spaces perceived of as leftist. You retards are proving the point.
Knowing how much some conservatives despise fatness in women...
People don't despise fatness in people, usually. They don't appreciate it. They despise this new push to lie about it and claim fat is normal and stuff. That's despicable.
...it’s also interesting to see them so easily exploit the idea of body positivity.
Yeah, if you have positive aspects to your body you've got body positivity. This journo...
And while this kind of goalpost-shifting is par for the course at this point, it remains infuriating to watch rightwingers both villainize and also manipulate the language of inclusion, depending on what suits them.
Oh no, how dare rightwingers twist language to their ends! Who would do such a thing?!
The online conversation about Sweeney is also clearly a reaction to the fact that we’re seeing far more racialized, gender-nonconforming, not-model-thin people in mainstream media.
Translation: We're erasing whites ("racialized" is such a stupid word, even by lefty standards), promoting trans freaks (and I do mean freaks; crossdressing would be downright normal compared to this), and obese fucking hamplanets ("not-model-thin my ass.)
As Phetasy writes: “For anyone under the age of 25, they’ve likely never seen it in their lifetime – as the giggling blonde with an amazing rack has been stamped out of existence, a creature shamed to the brink of extinction.”
Really? This, once again, is patently false. The “hot blonde” is still very much the queen bee of the western cultural zeitgeist, except today, she may not laugh politely at your crass jokes or let you objectify her.
Even by the journo's own argument, she saying it's been coopted and twisted. Also, the "hot blonde" being the queen bee is bullshit. Nowadays it's all nonwhite women - usually ugly - in leading roles, it seems.
And therein lies the real problem. What conservatives actually want is the version of white womanhood that they saw on Sunday’s SNL episode – sexy, problematic yet unashamed, and seemingly happy to play the role society has assigned her when necessary.
I only watched a bit of it after seeing this article, but I didn't get any of that from SNL. She's reaching hard. But, yeah, that sounds kind of nice.
It’s also important to consider who wrote this, and not just the politics and people they represent. The writers of both the Spectator and National Post articles are women, and it’s not a coincidence that conservative media deployed them to create this garbage.
LOL. LOL. 'These sex traitors are being used by conservatives (who are obviously all white men)' essentially.
Because, of course, it’s seemingly not as slimy for a woman to write a thinkpiece about a 26-year-old’s “buxom bust”, and when the writer is a woman, it’s much easier to pretend that this kind of wretched thinking comes from a place of legitimate contemplation and lived experience.
Journo scum, have you considered it might come from a place of contemplation and lived experience? Plenty of women feel cheated by your retarded new world order. And I can't blame them. Society is retarded now, perhaps more than it ever has been in history, and it's hurting men and women both. Both sexes are at present being forced by an artificially and malicious shaped society to fit into roles that are extremely unhealthy for them. Much more unhealthy that what leftists claim the previous version of society forced on people.
Women – Sweeney included – deserve better than having to endure this kind of low-grade discourse just so that misogynists can defend a vision of femininity that isn’t actually useful to everyday women in any real way.
Everyday women aren't useful anymore, by and large. The cultural locusts like this journo saw to that. Of course some women have realized this, and want back what was taken from them. Femininity is useful to women, just as masculinity is to men. This journo is the enemy of women, it's not the "conservative women" posing a threat.
This was so pointless, and I couldn't figure out what anyone was pissy about, that I just decided to read and respond to the article. It's a stupid waste of time, but here we are. Also, even having read the article...I'm still having trouble finding out what leftists are upset over...and what conservatives are allegedly obsessed over. This is, as they say, a nothinburger. But let's get to it.
Leftists talk stupid. Yup, that's the response.
I'm actually inclined to cede this; I haven't seen it, but SNL is generally lackluster. However, it's hilarious leftists have finally found an SNL episode they don't like.
Journo still isn't presenting any demented conversation. Also not sure how "autonomy" fits in.
Firstly, her point is correct. Secondly...she's a woman. This shit is even dumber than I thought.
This is not the last time the butthurt journo does some mind reading. And to a woman, no less. If women are being misogynistic, can they also "mansplain?" Because this is pretty mansplainy.
Nah, fuck off, communist.
Journo still hasn't presented ogling. There's been appreciation...largely from women. Again, this whole piece is even more stupid and pointless than the titles lead me to believe.
Oh, just call her a bimbo slut and be done with it, feminist harpy.
These damn misogynists!
We've got a twofer; more mind reading, and very disingenuous framing.
Body positivity can go in the trash where it belongs. Fat people - especially very fat people - men or women, shouldn't be "accepted," unless they're actively in the process of losing weight. "Healthy at any size" is a blatant lie, and fatties are killing themselves. So, yeah, screw "inclusiveness."
This whole article is so fucking stupid, and I'm already slowing down. Show the disparagement. Also, I knew race would come into it. Also, yeah, they used to be worshipped...nowadays they get shit articles like this written if they appear in public in spaces perceived of as leftist. You retards are proving the point.
People don't despise fatness in people, usually. They don't appreciate it. They despise this new push to lie about it and claim fat is normal and stuff. That's despicable.
Yeah, if you have positive aspects to your body you've got body positivity. This journo...
Oh no, how dare rightwingers twist language to their ends! Who would do such a thing?!
Translation: We're erasing whites ("racialized" is such a stupid word, even by lefty standards), promoting trans freaks (and I do mean freaks; crossdressing would be downright normal compared to this), and obese fucking hamplanets ("not-model-thin my ass.)
Even by the journo's own argument, she saying it's been coopted and twisted. Also, the "hot blonde" being the queen bee is bullshit. Nowadays it's all nonwhite women - usually ugly - in leading roles, it seems.
I only watched a bit of it after seeing this article, but I didn't get any of that from SNL. She's reaching hard. But, yeah, that sounds kind of nice.
LOL. LOL. 'These sex traitors are being used by conservatives (who are obviously all white men)' essentially.
Journo scum, have you considered it might come from a place of contemplation and lived experience? Plenty of women feel cheated by your retarded new world order. And I can't blame them. Society is retarded now, perhaps more than it ever has been in history, and it's hurting men and women both. Both sexes are at present being forced by an artificially and malicious shaped society to fit into roles that are extremely unhealthy for them. Much more unhealthy that what leftists claim the previous version of society forced on people.
Everyday women aren't useful anymore, by and large. The cultural locusts like this journo saw to that. Of course some women have realized this, and want back what was taken from them. Femininity is useful to women, just as masculinity is to men. This journo is the enemy of women, it's not the "conservative women" posing a threat.