Because calling something “unknown physics” is still missing the point. You are making the mistake of describing something as a physical manifestation when it has to exist outside the realm of the universe.
It is something beyond our understanding because our understanding is limited to this universe.
Calling it unknown physics is just as arbitrary as calling it God. You don't get to have your cake and eat it, I wasn't a snob about what you decided to use for your imprecise nomenclature, so I won't just accept you being a snob about mine.
Just be more imaginative, imagine expanding the umbrella of the term physics from reality based physics into also covering the metaphysical and it's all peachy again.
You are still hung up on the physical world. That’s what I’m trying to point out. A physical entity cannot have been the origin of a physical universe. Even “metaphysical” still exists within the realm of the physical.
The only logical conclusion is something not physical created the universe. It’s an inescapable reality.
Yeah, I get what you're saying already. It's really not that hard to imagine an abstract concept beyond reality. I was just making the point that giving a name to that outside influence that is already used for something else is just going to confuse people.
And I think you misunderstand what I mean by metaphysics. The name is a confusing bastardisation, especially to students of ancient greek, but it is a branch of philosophy concerned with things like the origin of reality and it basically encompasses your entire thought process here. It's also got a less formal modern connotation as the study of the supernatural.
I’m going to stop you there.
Because calling something “unknown physics” is still missing the point. You are making the mistake of describing something as a physical manifestation when it has to exist outside the realm of the universe.
It is something beyond our understanding because our understanding is limited to this universe.
Calling it unknown physics is just as arbitrary as calling it God. You don't get to have your cake and eat it, I wasn't a snob about what you decided to use for your imprecise nomenclature, so I won't just accept you being a snob about mine.
Just be more imaginative, imagine expanding the umbrella of the term physics from reality based physics into also covering the metaphysical and it's all peachy again.
You are still hung up on the physical world. That’s what I’m trying to point out. A physical entity cannot have been the origin of a physical universe. Even “metaphysical” still exists within the realm of the physical.
The only logical conclusion is something not physical created the universe. It’s an inescapable reality.
Yeah, I get what you're saying already. It's really not that hard to imagine an abstract concept beyond reality. I was just making the point that giving a name to that outside influence that is already used for something else is just going to confuse people.
And I think you misunderstand what I mean by metaphysics. The name is a confusing bastardisation, especially to students of ancient greek, but it is a branch of philosophy concerned with things like the origin of reality and it basically encompasses your entire thought process here. It's also got a less formal modern connotation as the study of the supernatural.
Maybe for you and I, but I’m quite skeptical of the vast majority of humanity.
Yes I did. My brain read it as quantum physics for some reason. I’m quite familiar with metaphysics.