It's really amazing that I've been called a subversive by retards on this site when I'm seeing people absolutely adopting the SJW mentality of "If you happen to disagree with me on a particular topic then that means you're automatically on the opposite side that I hate and you are not allowed to post otherwise". Not only do they adopt this mentality they're actively trying to form mobs to try and go after individuals because they're mad.
This isn't just people downvoting a particularly retarded user or someone they know is having a retarded moment which is pretty normal. I do think it needs to be addressed a bit because they're now just going after anyone and making shit up about them. Granted, could be spergs with alt. accounts who think this is reddit and are trying to mob users they don't like but still the point stands.
. Being against Palestine does not mean you automatically support Israel
. Laughing at TERFs and not supporting them does not make you pro-trans ( Imagine actually thinking this and being serious about it lol )
. Being against AI translation does not make you pro-SJW localiser
. Not wanting to ban porn does not explicitly make you 'pro porn' and anti-family ( Again, some retards here actually believe this )
. Not wanting to marry women who hate men does not mean you don't want a family or to have a real relationship
I warned people about the right wing SJWs awhile back that are on this site because I was pissing them off the moment I came on here and they've very much been having a mask off moment lately. Don't let the annoying shits prevent you from having a nuanced opinion on anything.
The Jack Thompson types are trying their best to make a bit of a comeback for 2024 it seems and pulling the SJW thing of "Hello fellow kids I love muh vidya games too now here's why you're a degenerate". Also worth noting when it comes to the community these people are the least likely to post any actual gaming content.
But it seems you are excusing it, since you object to people calling it out. You seem to view "don't do porn" as an extremist message, despite being pretty much unequivocally a positive and correct bit of advice.
Agreed, but I don't think that real solution is just handwaving and blaming the definitely shitty economy and society. Why they're doing it doesn't change that they shouldn't be doing it.
Yup. And I like your idea of returning LAN parties. Let's get 'er done. Reject modernity, embrace tradition.
I'm against censorship Kienan, I realise some people here might view that as a bit of a stretch but if you don't 'defend' porn then it's going to cause a cascade effect of oh let's just censor any other 'degenerate filth' that we don't like.
By all means, preach against it, but it's the same reason I'll defend some of the most vile opinions on the internet, free expression and free speech. One thing I will agree with the anti-porn lot on though is we're seeing more and more evidence of various porn companies running a psyops and possibly a glowie one at that but that's a different conversation to have.
This is the kind of moral panic that was around in the 90's, leftist hate speech is just a different left wing iteration of it.
Maybe you haven't seen my posts, but I'd say I'm one of the most principled defenders of porn here actually, despite also stating its harms and encouraging people not to do it.
Porn is speech, don't ban porn. But it's still bad.
Totally agreed, and I've said the same multiple times, often somewhat unpopularly. There's a difference between defending porn existing and defending or justifying overuse of porn though.
The government shouldn't ban porn. Men shouldn't watch porn, or should at the very least severely limit consumption. Both can be true.
Honestly, I'm enjoying this, first time I ever got lumped into the "anti-porn" side, I'm usually the "pro-porn degenerate." Fun change of pace.
Again, for the record, no hate toward you. But if you look back you'll see I never argued against the existence of porn, I argued against handwaving away people using porn to excess.
I'm talking personal responsibility, not censorship or government intervention. Fuck the government, they can pry my choice to watch porn from my cold dead hands. Because you're right, it is an important argument, and a massive canary in the coalmine.
I've been very outspoken against "ID laws" too, as they're completely retarded levels of government overreach. I've argued extensively (and fruitlessly) against the anti-porn side on that, actually. They don't want to get that it's not about keeping kids from porn, and that ID laws affect everyone, not just kids. You're an unknown until you provide said ID, so it affects everyone. ID laws are insidious, and will be the death of the internet if allowed to get a foot in the door. Government doesn't get to say what information I access, and if they get more power to monitor and control even one aspect of the internet, they get it all.
Again, I've literally never argued for the banning of porn, as that would be extremely dangerous and goes against my principles too. But it's also not just a moral panic; porn is bad.
But, yeah, not taking shots at you, this is just honest amusement, but I like how you seem to have assumed I hold beliefs I am in fact strictly opposed to.
I'm just chatting generally fyi as that seems to be the prevailing attitude on this site towards porn. As for ID laws and such, completely pointless we actually agree on a lot, I mocked the right a lot over the pornhub ban which is another reason I'd get accused of being a leftist.