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Christians when the pope allows gay marriage. (media.scored.co)
posted 1 year ago by Bluestorm 1 year ago by Bluestorm +2 / -21
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– Piroko 0 points 1 year ago +1 / -1

MMMhmmm.

Consider "eye for an eye". The Law of Moses sets out a practical minimum for the functioning of a state. Blood for blood. But Christ basically says that while this is the law, it's not the ideal of behavior that you should approve of seeing the murderer "justly" die. This doesn't reflect well on YOU, and Christ's message is about you the individual, your behavior, and your relationship to God.

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– Smith1980 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

That’s pretty much what I’ve been taught throughout life. I didn’t know you were a Christian. Thought you were an atheist for some reason

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– Piroko 2 points 1 year ago +3 / -1

That is a surprisingly complex issue.

I was raised in a majority Quaker community, but it's fair to say I was agonistic. But I arrived at faith by working Dostoyevsky's Dilemma in reverse. The dilemma states:

“If God does not exist, everything is permitted.”

But I start with the concrete moral knowledge that some things are wrong, hence god must exist.

A central tenet of Quakerism is the belief in personal experience of god. This stands in stark contrast to, say, the Muslim view that man and god are distinctly separate and that nothing of God is in man. I BELIEVE that our sliver of moral knowledge, the conscience, is a direct experience of the divine.

"Knowing" that all possess this sliver of divinity, that all possess a relationship to god, whether they acknowledge it or deny it (or try to drown it in substances), I am able to leap past the dilemma and say that some things are wrong. But I can only do that because I acknowledge that god must exist.

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– Smith1980 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

No arguments

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