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China’s Colossal Hidden-Debt Problem Is Coming to a Head - (When you add hidden local government debt - china’s debt burden is HIGHER than the US!) (archive.is)
posted 2 years ago by NatalieBiden 2 years ago by NatalieBiden +25 / -0
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– FatalConceit 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

You raise some interesting points, but I think they need some clarification. I don't think China's foreign reserves are likely to be seized, as they are mostly held in safe and liquid assets, such as US Treasury bonds. China does not need to sell its US bond holdings to cover its housing debt, as most of its debt is domestic and denominated in renminbi. So it's mostly citizens owing money to the government banks. China's housing market is not quite worth $70 trillion, but rather around $52 trillion - however that valuation is itself contentious. China's currency policy is not only determined by interest rates, but also by exchange rate interventions and capital controls. China has been gradually allowing more flexibility in its exchange rate and opening up its capital account, but it still faces challenges in balancing its external and internal objectives. While some Chinese citizens may definitely prefer to invest overseas, there are also many who are confident in China's economic prospects and legal system (I tried finding a % but it wasn't readily available). China has been slowly improving its property rights protection and financial regulation, as well as promoting domestic consumption and innovation. So I wouldn't assume that all Chinese investors are fleeing the country or risking their assets - remember we're talking about 1.3 Billion people - most of which do not have the liquidity or means to even be holidaying outside the country. But it is something that I think the CCP would be worried about and hence why they have made some small movements towards rectification. However if it will be enough remains to be seen. We live in interesting times. I'd honestly thought WW III would have broken out by now.

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– TaylorLorenz 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I don't think China's foreign reserves are likely to be seized, as they are mostly held in safe and liquid assets, such as US Treasury bonds.

I can't find anything definitive. But I expect that's exactly what the Russian foreign reserves were invested in. (Central banks are all pretty conservative and copy each other.)

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-central-bank-reserves-what-are-they-made-2022-02-28/

I personally wouldn't like to predict how safe these assets would be if a war breaks out and the US congress starts passing legislation.

If I were China, I wouldn't take that risk for 1%(?) interest income that these legacy bonds are paying. Now would be a good time to take profits as US bonds have just rallied on mere expectations that rates will be cut in future.

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