It's just addressing that mention of 'third world' in the title. Irish peasants were even poorer than black slaves according to W.E. Dubois, and they had a life expectancy that was about half. This doesn't make them bad, but it does mean that Ireland was a bit of a third world country.
Actually I guess from a different kind of perspective, Ireland was third world!
That would be the original meaning of the word as Europe/NATO/allies were "first world," Russia/Eastern Europe/Communist nations/allies were the "second world," and everyone else was third world. That would include Ireland. Not a particularly helpful usage of the term though.
And yes, the Appalachian poverty belt, even today, is highly Scots-Irish, from Georgia, really intensifying in North Carolina and Virginia, but stretching through West Virginia, Pennsylvania, and NY. I have a diary of a relative who grew up in Apalachia. Their house did not have running water or electricity in the 1950s; she wrote about waking up with a layer of snow on her bed that had blown in through the wooden siding, etc.
That would be the original meaning of the word as Europe/NATO/allies were "first world," Russia/Eastern Europe/Communist nations/allies were the "second world," and everyone else was third world. That would include Ireland. Not a particularly helpful usage of the term though.
Wow, an oldtimer who still knows that! True enough, but in popular parlance, Third World refers to what dekachin calls "the poors". When we talk about First World Infrastructure, we don't mean infrastructure that's stamped "NATO", after all.
And yes, the Appalachian poverty belt, even today, is highly Scots-Irish, from Georgia really intensifying in North Carolina and Virginia, but stretching through West Virginia, Pennsylvania, and NY.
Right, and that's after a century (your date) of Irish immigration.
To be clear: when I say poor, I don't mean bad. I find a lot of poor people to be rather virtuous, as opposed to some of the wealthy who wax rotten in idleness.
Wow, an oldtimer who still knows that! True enough, but in popular parlance, Third World refers to what dekachin calls "the poors". When we talk about First World Infrastructure, we don't mean infrastructure that's stamped "NATO", after all.
Or the new phrase beloved by douchebags everywhere, the "Global South."
For "world" knowledge, I can thank one of my social studies teachers who was a good teacher, a Russophile, and teaching my class during the exact moment that the Soviet Union was collapsing!
Or the new phrase beloved by douchebags everywhere, the "Global South."
It's just the euphemistic treadmill. They'll try to replace the Global South with something else once that gets negative connotations, as no doubt it will.
For "world" knowledge, I can thank one of my social studies teachers who was a good teacher, a Russophile, and teaching my class during the exact moment that the Soviet Union was collapsing!
Well, you had more good teachers than I did. I had to learn this from my parents.
Actually I guess from a different kind of perspective, Ireland was third world!
That would be the original meaning of the word as Europe/NATO/allies were "first world," Russia/Eastern Europe/Communist nations/allies were the "second world," and everyone else was third world. That would include Ireland. Not a particularly helpful usage of the term though.
And yes, the Appalachian poverty belt, even today, is highly Scots-Irish, from Georgia, really intensifying in North Carolina and Virginia, but stretching through West Virginia, Pennsylvania, and NY. I have a diary of a relative who grew up in Apalachia. Their house did not have running water or electricity in the 1950s; she wrote about waking up with a layer of snow on her bed that had blown in through the wooden siding, etc.
Crazy stuff.
Wow, an oldtimer who still knows that! True enough, but in popular parlance, Third World refers to what dekachin calls "the poors". When we talk about First World Infrastructure, we don't mean infrastructure that's stamped "NATO", after all.
Right, and that's after a century (your date) of Irish immigration.
To be clear: when I say poor, I don't mean bad. I find a lot of poor people to be rather virtuous, as opposed to some of the wealthy who wax rotten in idleness.
Or the new phrase beloved by douchebags everywhere, the "Global South."
For "world" knowledge, I can thank one of my social studies teachers who was a good teacher, a Russophile, and teaching my class during the exact moment that the Soviet Union was collapsing!
It's just the euphemistic treadmill. They'll try to replace the Global South with something else once that gets negative connotations, as no doubt it will.
Well, you had more good teachers than I did. I had to learn this from my parents.