Wow, this is amazing. And it fits right in with what I said yesterday on a similar topic. This thread, if you're curious.
I'll say many of the same things here, but expand on it a bit in wake of this crazy person's even more heightened sociopathic indoctrination. As an aside, damn, feminists are awful people.
...men...want girls to "love" boys, women to "love" men, as a necessary prelude to maintain dominance...The "love" for boys and men is what acknowledges the power of men to rule over everyone deemed inferior (women)
Straight up sociopathic. And very resentful. Femcel? Quite possibly, although the indoctrination spreads easily, and women are very susceptible to the programing, so for all I know she could be quite desirable. But that's not the sense I get.
The funny thing is, as I said in the other thread...a lot of the 'women really loving men' thing is a female fantasy. As is all the domination talk, although in this case it's just in the author's imagination. That's also not as important to my key point, but it is delightfully ironic. Her feminist bitching about 'patriarchy' very much resembles female fantasy. Oppress me harder, daddy.
Anyway, to the key point, this is another instance of 'female treats male with anything other than contempt? Doesn't pass the feminist test! Female treats male with love or adoration? INSTAFAIL the feminist test! Women can't like men! But, remember, boys, feminism is for men, too! Join the cult, we totally hate love you!'
Seriously, the main portion of her complain comes down to that there are healthy relationships where people get along. That's it, but looked at through a 'feminist lens.' Also, she's seeing what she wants to see. It's been a while since I've seen the movies (I should again, they're quite good), so I can't list all the details, but it's not like the male characters always 'get the girl' or anything, or that then all the girl does is housework. In fact, due to the female characters often being very independent or having responsibilities outside of a relationship, they often don't end up together at all, and it's bittersweet.
If the stories were what the radfem claims they are, the man would always get the girl, and the girl would ditch all her past responsibilities and just serve the man. That's not what happens. Instead, everyone has some character growth, but often things get in the way. It's kind of the opposite of what she claims.
Also, I found this pretty funny:
In addition, Ghibli female characters tend to be children or teenagers subjected to adult models of sexuality at developmentally inappropriate stages. There tends to be something more than "just friends" implied between a girl and a boy (5-year-old Ponyo and 5-year-old Sosuke, 10-year-old Chihiro and 12-year-old Haku, 13-year-old Sheeta and 12-year-old Pazu, 15-year-old Mononoke and 17-year-old Ashitaka, 18-year-old Sophie and 27-year-old Howl, etc)
All those ages are roughly the same, and the idea that anything sexual is going on is all in the mind of the radfem anyway...yikes? The only big gap is Sophie/Howl and, well, like some of the other stuff...age gaps are a huge turn on...to women.
Children play around with adult relationships, not in a sexual way. They're trying things on, experimenting. Young children will propose to each other, and the like, and be "married." Leave it to a hateful culture warrior to turn childhood exploring of adult roles in a harmless way into 'inappropriate sexualization.' Fuck off.
Regarding the home, girls and women are seen cooking and cleaning. Sophie is a cleaning lady in Howl’s Moving Castle, Satsuki and Mei clean their new house in My Neighbor Totoro, Chihiro cleans the bathhouse in Spirited Away, Kiki cleans the room given to her in Kiki’s Delivery Service, Umi leads the school's clubhouse cleaning in From Up on Poppy Hill, etc. Boys and men rarely help with the work
Most of that is completely detached from any male/female dynamics, some of it is just children doing chores. Is a girl ever cleaning anything, or taking any responsibility anti-feminist? Wait, don't tell me, I know the answer, but it's still depressing to think about.
Sophie is a cleaning lady in Howl’s Moving Castle...
Again...massive female fantasy. And older man with prestige paying attention to a younger woman in a subservient job? Sploosh.
Kiki cleans the room given to her in Kiki’s Delivery Service
I love this one too. It's her room. Is this author really bitching about Kiki cleaning her own room. The only thing that would make this better is if she accused this of being a far-right dogwhistle or something. This is obviously a Jordan Peterson (literally Hitler) callout.
Seriously, a lot of this is just tales of accountability, responsibility, and personal growth. So I can see why a feminist would think it's anti-women.
Lastly, I'll just paste the most relevant parts of my comment from the other thread:
Firstly, this is what a lot of women want. "omg I'm obsessed and deeply in love" is often an aspiration. Secondly, and perhaps more interestingly...I love the mask off moment. "A woman...liking a man? That's not feminist!"
Reminds me of, and I wish I remembered the context, some hellhole being called a feminist utopia, and feminists defending themselves by saying men weren't oppressed enough for it to be feminist. I guess they forgot the propaganda that feminism is for men, too! Hahaha, "this isn't true feminism, because there are still men who haven't been either murdered or enslaved." Nah, fuck off.
That seems to be the goal with anime, too: "Men are still enjoying anime, therefore it's still problematic."
Gotta say, I'm glad we're back to hating feminists explicitly. Feels nostalgic, what with all the other political, economic, and just generally bleak shit that's been going on. Nice to have a nice soft target in delusional and sociopathic radical feminists.
men...want girls to "love" boys, women to "love" men, as a necessary prelude to maintain dominance...The "love" for boys and men is what acknowledges the power of men to rule over everyone deemed inferior (women)
You know, I thought the "male gaze" argument was about women feeling insecure when a beautiful woman shows up, but no, it's deeper than that. It turns out feminists are joyless cunts who hate everything that reminds them about their own missery.
They get angry at everything that doesn't celebrate their own mediocrity. If they get triggered by healthy depictions of relationships it's because it reminds them they'll never have that. They aren't jealous of sexier women, they are mad it reminds them they get no male attention, so they try to run down those women into the ground. Women trying to be nice? Internalized patriarchy! They show a genuine effort to get into male hobbies? Pick me!, etc.
Reminder, feminists hate Disney so much, not because muh social control, propaganda or anything like that. But because Disney and most media promised to them they'll get a knight in shining armor literally willing to die for them and that will sweep them out of their feet if they just be themselves. That the world would bend backwards to show them appreciation.
It's a whole level of petty vindictiveness and mass psychosis. They'll rather stay miserable for life than give in to a self-percieved moral? (if you can even call it that) grievance. It's insane. Oh, but don't get fooled, as I said, they aren't mad men are opressing them, they are mad at men not being the prince charming in th exact way they imagined him to be when they were 8 years old. Because otherwise why would they hold muh career in such high regard? They got tricked by the system but they don't mind serving it because it always promises them higher social status like a dangling carrot
Wow, this is amazing. And it fits right in with what I said yesterday on a similar topic. This thread, if you're curious.
I'll say many of the same things here, but expand on it a bit in wake of this crazy person's even more heightened sociopathic indoctrination. As an aside, damn, feminists are awful people.
Straight up sociopathic. And very resentful. Femcel? Quite possibly, although the indoctrination spreads easily, and women are very susceptible to the programing, so for all I know she could be quite desirable. But that's not the sense I get.
The funny thing is, as I said in the other thread...a lot of the 'women really loving men' thing is a female fantasy. As is all the domination talk, although in this case it's just in the author's imagination. That's also not as important to my key point, but it is delightfully ironic. Her feminist bitching about 'patriarchy' very much resembles female fantasy. Oppress me harder, daddy.
Anyway, to the key point, this is another instance of 'female treats male with anything other than contempt? Doesn't pass the feminist test! Female treats male with love or adoration? INSTAFAIL the feminist test! Women can't like men! But, remember, boys, feminism is for men, too! Join the cult, we totally
hatelove you!'Seriously, the main portion of her complain comes down to that there are healthy relationships where people get along. That's it, but looked at through a 'feminist lens.' Also, she's seeing what she wants to see. It's been a while since I've seen the movies (I should again, they're quite good), so I can't list all the details, but it's not like the male characters always 'get the girl' or anything, or that then all the girl does is housework. In fact, due to the female characters often being very independent or having responsibilities outside of a relationship, they often don't end up together at all, and it's bittersweet.
If the stories were what the radfem claims they are, the man would always get the girl, and the girl would ditch all her past responsibilities and just serve the man. That's not what happens. Instead, everyone has some character growth, but often things get in the way. It's kind of the opposite of what she claims.
Also, I found this pretty funny:
All those ages are roughly the same, and the idea that anything sexual is going on is all in the mind of the radfem anyway...yikes? The only big gap is Sophie/Howl and, well, like some of the other stuff...age gaps are a huge turn on...to women.
Children play around with adult relationships, not in a sexual way. They're trying things on, experimenting. Young children will propose to each other, and the like, and be "married." Leave it to a hateful culture warrior to turn childhood exploring of adult roles in a harmless way into 'inappropriate sexualization.' Fuck off.
Most of that is completely detached from any male/female dynamics, some of it is just children doing chores. Is a girl ever cleaning anything, or taking any responsibility anti-feminist? Wait, don't tell me, I know the answer, but it's still depressing to think about.
Again...massive female fantasy. And older man with prestige paying attention to a younger woman in a subservient job? Sploosh.
I love this one too. It's her room. Is this author really bitching about Kiki cleaning her own room. The only thing that would make this better is if she accused this of being a far-right dogwhistle or something. This is obviously a Jordan Peterson (literally Hitler) callout.
Seriously, a lot of this is just tales of accountability, responsibility, and personal growth. So I can see why a feminist would think it's anti-women.
Lastly, I'll just paste the most relevant parts of my comment from the other thread:
Gotta say, I'm glad we're back to hating feminists explicitly. Feels nostalgic, what with all the other political, economic, and just generally bleak shit that's been going on. Nice to have a nice soft target in delusional and sociopathic radical feminists.
You know, I thought the "male gaze" argument was about women feeling insecure when a beautiful woman shows up, but no, it's deeper than that. It turns out feminists are joyless cunts who hate everything that reminds them about their own missery.
They get angry at everything that doesn't celebrate their own mediocrity. If they get triggered by healthy depictions of relationships it's because it reminds them they'll never have that. They aren't jealous of sexier women, they are mad it reminds them they get no male attention, so they try to run down those women into the ground. Women trying to be nice? Internalized patriarchy! They show a genuine effort to get into male hobbies? Pick me!, etc.
Reminder, feminists hate Disney so much, not because muh social control, propaganda or anything like that. But because Disney and most media promised to them they'll get a knight in shining armor literally willing to die for them and that will sweep them out of their feet if they just be themselves. That the world would bend backwards to show them appreciation.
It's a whole level of petty vindictiveness and mass psychosis. They'll rather stay miserable for life than give in to a self-percieved moral? (if you can even call it that) grievance. It's insane. Oh, but don't get fooled, as I said, they aren't mad men are opressing them, they are mad at men not being the prince charming in th exact way they imagined him to be when they were 8 years old. Because otherwise why would they hold muh career in such high regard? They got tricked by the system but they don't mind serving it because it always promises them higher social status like a dangling carrot