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posted 2 years ago by Seattlantis 2 years ago by Seattlantis +36 / -0
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– Happygo 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

I actually had a good convo with in laws about why I don't want to be involved with it. And especially why I don't want to send money to Israel.

They were surprisingly receptive for being normie conservatives.

The thing is most normie conservatives can be swayed with logic. They are ripe for being allies.

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– WhitePhoenix 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

There's a lawyer that I watch named Good Lawgic. He's a big MAGA type, but he's also Jewish, and he makes fun of the standard Jewish stereotypes about Jews being in positions of power, etc. all the time. He's self aware, he understands.

But here's the big problem for him - he has actual relatives in Israel. So when people wanted him to comment on this issue, he outright said "there is no way I would be able to align my principles as a MAGA supporter with the sheer emotional attachment I have to Israel considering my birth family comes from there and I still have relatives living there."

Like, he's the first honest Jew (heh heh) that said that he cannot be impartial about this subject because he has literally an emotional connection to the country and he struggles between his support for his family (which is good, yes?) and his principles as a MAGA supporter where he knows logically the same arguments that he had about the Ukraine-Russia shitshow (stop sending money over there, we're wasting time there) SHOULD be logically applied to Israel-Palestine, but he has a mental hurdle he can't jump because of the direct effect it would have on his family.

All the other "conserva-Jews" I've seen blindly support Israel and refuse to acknowledge that their blind support for Israel is due to some stupid comaraderie with Judaism being another "religion" to support here in the West and/or some sort of ill-concieved loyalty to a tiny strip of land that's on the other side of the world. The only problem is none of the conserva-Jews actually are HONEST about it like the Good Lawgic dude I talked to is.

It's the same way Ilhan Omar always talks negatively about Israel - her surface-level arguments against Israel existing make sense, but it's not coming from any kind of position that aligns with our position. She bitches about Israel because the Mudslimes hate Jews. Most of us (sans for some 1488ers in this board) bitch about Israel because we waste too much fucking money on them and they should be fixing their own shit.

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– Happygo 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I'm good bro. It's time to have conversation about what it means to be an American. You know the guy will always be a jew first. ✡️

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