More or less, yeah. I would have various checks on institutions as well so that hostile minorities can't obtain power over us. Basically, I want to balance moderation with what white people need. If that 30% of non-whites is extremely violent toward us, we need more drastic measures to keep them away, but the default isn't going to be some sort of "load them into boxcares" insanity.
Even if I were bullshitting you and secretly was the genocidal maniac you think I am, a movement like that isn't going to get anywhere. Contrary to normie takes on things like the NSDAP, they don't just arise because their propaganda was just that damn good. It takes extreme conditions for that sort of stuff to assume power.
More or less, yeah. I would have various checks on institutions as well so that hostile minorities can't obtain power over us.
What are you thinking of, or is it theoretical in that it would need to be worked out? And I'm honestly curious, not looking for a gotcha to say "AHA, SEE YOU ARE A BAD GUY".
Basically, I want to balance moderation with what white people need. If that 30% of non-whites is extremely violent toward us, we need more drastic measures to keep them away, but the default isn't going to be some sort of "load them into boxcares" insanity.
So really the Israel model. Very interesting, because most 'white nationalist' types cite Israel as an 'ethnostate' and ask why they're not allowed to advocate for one, while in reality advocating for things that go much further than what Israel does.
Even if I were bullshitting you and secretly was the genocidal maniac you think I am,
I don't think that at all, you hardly sound like one. The only thing that is foreign to me is the concern for color/race, but based on (ius sanguinis) nationality I find it reasonable.
Contrary to normie takes on things like the NSDAP, they don't just arise because their propaganda was just that damn good. It takes extreme conditions for that sort of stuff to assume power.
More importantly, they were running on the bad economy and opposing communism, not on "gas the Jews" - which wasn't even on their agenda to begin with. Just like communists in 1917 seized power (or in one evocative phrase, picked up sovereignty from the ground) and kept it under the slogan of land and peace, not "we'll start a civil war killing millions and then starve tens of millions while reducing the country to backwardness and penury".
As you say, "normies" have no idea what happened and why.
Essentially, stuff like limiting who owns media and can run for office, perhaps by who they are representing. The only way I can see things working out as if various ethnic blocks end up organized as a sort of confederacy, even if they don't occupy contiguous regions (which they probably won't).
I don't think that at all, you hardly sound like one.
DominatedByMenAnally seems to disagree with you.
in reality advocating for things that go much further than what Israel does.
It's funny you are saying that because I was banned from here for posting from the NJP's website, and they only advocate a quota on Jews at 2% That wasn't even the subject of the article. It's almost as if being banned from everything and then having our views described by our enemies leads to some misconceptions.
Commies had a real shot at taking over Germany though, and that too, was a product of the times. The bottom line is, I just don't see White Americans tolerating a Holobunga unless it looks like a real "us or them" scenario. If you don't think it's going to get that bad, there's little to worry about.
Essentially, stuff like limiting who owns media and can run for office, perhaps by who they are representing.
I would think that this would have minimal impact. Just imagine for a moment that Jews would not be allowed to own media with a mostly non-Jewish audience (I assume that's what it's targeted at). Who would the replacements be? Other wokies!
The only way I can see things working out as if various ethnic blocks end up organized as a sort of confederacy, even if they don't occupy contiguous regions (which they probably won't).
It seems to me that these would then engage in security competition, as it's euphemistically called. And what would you do about the vast numbers who would not fit into these 'ethnic blocks'?
DominatedByMenAnally seems to disagree with you.
People can make mistakes. He can be a bit quick to jump to conclusions about people and assert them with absolute certainty. But you are also wrong about him. You may not believe this, but his basic instinct is to censor nothing, because he is a free speech absolutist.
It's almost as if being banned from everything and then having our views described by our enemies leads to some misconceptions.
There's diversity in opinions among white nationalists. Once I described Curtis Yarvin's parable of the German cat, and some guy replied by saying that Yarvin should have been caught and gassed. Obviously, such lunatics make up a very small proportion, but there is no one set of views that can be described by anyone.
Commies had a real shot at taking over Germany though
I'm not sure they did after the Spartacist Uprising (which AFAIK never came even close to succeeding), but even if they had, they probably could not have kept power. They simply lacked the institutional support that the gullible conservatives and army gave to the Nazis.
The bottom line is, I just don't see White Americans tolerating a Holobunga unless it looks like a real "us or them" scenario.
Ordinary people have rather little to tolerate, when the folks in power decide on something.
I have a perfectly fine rebuttal to this, but it's against the rules.
And what would you do about the vast numbers who would not fit into these 'ethnic blocks'?
That depends on what they do. Most will either just mind their own business and be apolitical or caucus with one of the established groups, I would imagine.
As far as lunatics, we're a fringe ideology. As such, we attract our share of anti-social sperges. As America deteriorates under neoliberalism, our views will start leaking into the mainstream, and we'll have more normal people. Basically, very few well-adjusted people will want to endure everything that comes with being on the fringes when times are good. They aren't good anymore and will only get worse for a good while here.
If you look at this community, I'm one of the few people who pushes back against the celebrating whenever some random pleb get murdered or something (unless they are really far gone like that guy with AIDS). This place is overwhelmingly anti-social, and if you pay close attention, you will notice that it's actually the "Wamen Question" people who are the worst. Some of them do the racialist stuff too, but I don't think that "WQ" stuff is compatible with being a White Nationalist. If you hate women, you hate white women. If you hate white women, you hate white people.
It's funny you mention NrX because it has a clean, intellectual veneer, but it's actually very anti-social, elitist, and Social Darwinist. Those guys think the average plebe has too much power (lol). That type of thinking has as much potential to go off the rails as anything even it looks very clean by comparison while it's out of power. The WNs with the most potential don't talk about things that way.
More or less, yeah. I would have various checks on institutions as well so that hostile minorities can't obtain power over us. Basically, I want to balance moderation with what white people need. If that 30% of non-whites is extremely violent toward us, we need more drastic measures to keep them away, but the default isn't going to be some sort of "load them into boxcares" insanity.
Even if I were bullshitting you and secretly was the genocidal maniac you think I am, a movement like that isn't going to get anywhere. Contrary to normie takes on things like the NSDAP, they don't just arise because their propaganda was just that damn good. It takes extreme conditions for that sort of stuff to assume power.
What are you thinking of, or is it theoretical in that it would need to be worked out? And I'm honestly curious, not looking for a gotcha to say "AHA, SEE YOU ARE A BAD GUY".
So really the Israel model. Very interesting, because most 'white nationalist' types cite Israel as an 'ethnostate' and ask why they're not allowed to advocate for one, while in reality advocating for things that go much further than what Israel does.
I don't think that at all, you hardly sound like one. The only thing that is foreign to me is the concern for color/race, but based on (ius sanguinis) nationality I find it reasonable.
More importantly, they were running on the bad economy and opposing communism, not on "gas the Jews" - which wasn't even on their agenda to begin with. Just like communists in 1917 seized power (or in one evocative phrase, picked up sovereignty from the ground) and kept it under the slogan of land and peace, not "we'll start a civil war killing millions and then starve tens of millions while reducing the country to backwardness and penury".
As you say, "normies" have no idea what happened and why.
Essentially, stuff like limiting who owns media and can run for office, perhaps by who they are representing. The only way I can see things working out as if various ethnic blocks end up organized as a sort of confederacy, even if they don't occupy contiguous regions (which they probably won't).
DominatedByMenAnally seems to disagree with you.
It's funny you are saying that because I was banned from here for posting from the NJP's website, and they only advocate a quota on Jews at 2% That wasn't even the subject of the article. It's almost as if being banned from everything and then having our views described by our enemies leads to some misconceptions.
Commies had a real shot at taking over Germany though, and that too, was a product of the times. The bottom line is, I just don't see White Americans tolerating a Holobunga unless it looks like a real "us or them" scenario. If you don't think it's going to get that bad, there's little to worry about.
I would think that this would have minimal impact. Just imagine for a moment that Jews would not be allowed to own media with a mostly non-Jewish audience (I assume that's what it's targeted at). Who would the replacements be? Other wokies!
It seems to me that these would then engage in security competition, as it's euphemistically called. And what would you do about the vast numbers who would not fit into these 'ethnic blocks'?
People can make mistakes. He can be a bit quick to jump to conclusions about people and assert them with absolute certainty. But you are also wrong about him. You may not believe this, but his basic instinct is to censor nothing, because he is a free speech absolutist.
There's diversity in opinions among white nationalists. Once I described Curtis Yarvin's parable of the German cat, and some guy replied by saying that Yarvin should have been caught and gassed. Obviously, such lunatics make up a very small proportion, but there is no one set of views that can be described by anyone.
I'm not sure they did after the Spartacist Uprising (which AFAIK never came even close to succeeding), but even if they had, they probably could not have kept power. They simply lacked the institutional support that the gullible conservatives and army gave to the Nazis.
Ordinary people have rather little to tolerate, when the folks in power decide on something.
I have a perfectly fine rebuttal to this, but it's against the rules.
That depends on what they do. Most will either just mind their own business and be apolitical or caucus with one of the established groups, I would imagine.
As far as lunatics, we're a fringe ideology. As such, we attract our share of anti-social sperges. As America deteriorates under neoliberalism, our views will start leaking into the mainstream, and we'll have more normal people. Basically, very few well-adjusted people will want to endure everything that comes with being on the fringes when times are good. They aren't good anymore and will only get worse for a good while here.
If you look at this community, I'm one of the few people who pushes back against the celebrating whenever some random pleb get murdered or something (unless they are really far gone like that guy with AIDS). This place is overwhelmingly anti-social, and if you pay close attention, you will notice that it's actually the "Wamen Question" people who are the worst. Some of them do the racialist stuff too, but I don't think that "WQ" stuff is compatible with being a White Nationalist. If you hate women, you hate white women. If you hate white women, you hate white people.
It's funny you mention NrX because it has a clean, intellectual veneer, but it's actually very anti-social, elitist, and Social Darwinist. Those guys think the average plebe has too much power (lol). That type of thinking has as much potential to go off the rails as anything even it looks very clean by comparison while it's out of power. The WNs with the most potential don't talk about things that way.