But I was rather impressed by how people here and elsewhere on the right, despite long bragging that they don't care if someone on the left has his free speech taken away, backed Brand to the hilt - despite all that. The left pretends to be better than it is, the right pretends to be worse.
Agreed, but with a caveat. I see some on the right - not all, but enough to be noteworthy - giving a lot more credence to the accusations than I think is correct, just because he's a lefty, and just because he was promiscuous back in the day. Just because he was a degenerate doesn't mean the rape accusations are even partially accurate. Could they be? Sure. But some on the right are just assuming some level of guilt (not fully believing the accusations, but allowing that it's exaggeration instead of fabrication) because they don't like some aspects of Brand's character. They'll still defend Brand, but assume he at least did something wrong. I'm sticking with innocent until proven guilty, especially considering this is obviously a highly orchestrated and predictable hit job. Again, might he have done something wrong? Sure, but I'm not going to assume that, or couch my arguments in that.
When shit like this happens, it doesn't really matter the guilt or innocent, because the accusations are so pointed. Without full information, we simply can't know the truth, and if Brand did something wrong, it would be pure coincidence, given the charged nature of the accusations.
For now, there seems to be room for him. And I think it's good. You need sensible leftists out there...
Agreed, but the problem is two-fold. The left is basically fully captured, so "sensible leftists" often end up having much more in common with the right, and naturally shift that way. The other issue is the purity spiral and purging I mentioned. Sensible leftists aren't welcome on the left. So I do think it's natural that sensible or dissident leftists end up sliding rightward.
Good point and, yeah, the labels often suck.
Agreed, but with a caveat. I see some on the right - not all, but enough to be noteworthy - giving a lot more credence to the accusations than I think is correct, just because he's a lefty, and just because he was promiscuous back in the day. Just because he was a degenerate doesn't mean the rape accusations are even partially accurate. Could they be? Sure. But some on the right are just assuming some level of guilt (not fully believing the accusations, but allowing that it's exaggeration instead of fabrication) because they don't like some aspects of Brand's character. They'll still defend Brand, but assume he at least did something wrong. I'm sticking with innocent until proven guilty, especially considering this is obviously a highly orchestrated and predictable hit job. Again, might he have done something wrong? Sure, but I'm not going to assume that, or couch my arguments in that.
When shit like this happens, it doesn't really matter the guilt or innocent, because the accusations are so pointed. Without full information, we simply can't know the truth, and if Brand did something wrong, it would be pure coincidence, given the charged nature of the accusations.
Agreed, but the problem is two-fold. The left is basically fully captured, so "sensible leftists" often end up having much more in common with the right, and naturally shift that way. The other issue is the purity spiral and purging I mentioned. Sensible leftists aren't welcome on the left. So I do think it's natural that sensible or dissident leftists end up sliding rightward.