"You need anything for your ship, she's got you covered."
"She may be a little rough around the edges, but she's just looking out for her own. There's no one better to have your back."
"Naeva's got a fire in her. The kind you only see in an engine pushed to its limit. She doesn't half-ass a damn thing and I love her for it."
This isn't how people talk. This is how bad writers make people talk because they have no idea how to have the characters demonstrate the personalities they envisioned for them through their own actions. And knowing this is a Bethesda game, the only thing I'm sure either of these two tough-as-nails hardcore lesbians do is stand around like statues and talk tough while they give you your mission and expect you to do all the dirty, dangerous work. And then run around looking like fools when violence does break out because the animations and AI are still crap. Either way, it's your guy who does the heavy lifting, but is forced to tolerate these cunts' condescension for plot reasons.
Though for what it's worth, this Naeva sounds like an abuser. She sees her girlfriend doing maintenance work on a malfunctioning area of the ship and her first reaction is to get mad and demand to know what she's doing, because she can't stop being tough and belligerent all the time. And when Jasmine tells her to have faith in her, Naeva condescendingly says she always does. Yeah, didn't sound like she did, and that was a pretty damn sarcastic tone. And as for Jazz, she's coming across as a battered woman trying to hide behind a girlboss facade.
Are you? Are you really? You are offended by this?
++
"You need anything for your ship, she's got you covered."
You can buy things for your ship. Or she can repair your ship.
"She may be a little rough around the edges, but she's just looking out for her own. There's no one better to have your back."
She belongs to a faction or will react poorly to someone elses death.
"Naeva's got a fire in her. The kind you only see in an engine pushed to its limit. She doesn't half-ass a damn thing and I love her for it."
Here is an aspect of her character you will not be able to derive through standard game play, or we wish for you to know about her up front.
++
You got replacement dialog for any of that? Because if not, you've said nothing here. Oh, yagh, lesbians are abuser, which is an agenda you wish to push I suppose. True or not. Is this thread of any actual value? Are they pushing modern woke tropes? Did you get any of that from your dialog examples?
The issue with these lines is that they violate the "show, don't tell" principle of writing. We have characters going out of their way to describe themselves, or others in this case, in overselling ways that don't come across as natural and are nakedly there to serve as a shortcut for proper characterization. Or they're trying to make these characters more impressive with minimal effort. The fixes needed aren't something that can be done with a few line replacements. We're talking about a complete overhaul about what's actually written and how the characters present themselves.
Here is an aspect of her character you will not be able to derive through standard game play, or we wish for you to know about her up front.
Way to prove my point. They couldn't put in the effort to SHOW me why Naeva is so awesome by having her do something awesome, so they just have her simp TELL me she is.
You clearly don't understand when to tell and NOT show.
For reference Here is a scene that would have made for a humorous conversation between two men reminisced on over drinks. That is where "Tell don't show" becomes useful, as it is a scene that should have never been filmed.
At this point, do you even understand what the supposed fake outrage of this topic was even meant to be?
Why you up voted it? Who you are as a person?
Why you continue to reply?
Again, here is the title that this thread is based on:
Try not to cringe: Strong independent interracial lesbian astronauts who need no man in Starfield
To which you replied that you are offended by dialog existing in an RPG, and continue slide down that path defending that as your sole objection.
What the fuck is even going on here! Are you O.D'ing on crazy pills While sniffing powdered estrogen capsules!?!
I'm more offended by this dialogue.
"You need anything for your ship, she's got you covered."
"She may be a little rough around the edges, but she's just looking out for her own. There's no one better to have your back."
"Naeva's got a fire in her. The kind you only see in an engine pushed to its limit. She doesn't half-ass a damn thing and I love her for it."
This isn't how people talk. This is how bad writers make people talk because they have no idea how to have the characters demonstrate the personalities they envisioned for them through their own actions. And knowing this is a Bethesda game, the only thing I'm sure either of these two tough-as-nails hardcore lesbians do is stand around like statues and talk tough while they give you your mission and expect you to do all the dirty, dangerous work. And then run around looking like fools when violence does break out because the animations and AI are still crap. Either way, it's your guy who does the heavy lifting, but is forced to tolerate these cunts' condescension for plot reasons.
Though for what it's worth, this Naeva sounds like an abuser. She sees her girlfriend doing maintenance work on a malfunctioning area of the ship and her first reaction is to get mad and demand to know what she's doing, because she can't stop being tough and belligerent all the time. And when Jasmine tells her to have faith in her, Naeva condescendingly says she always does. Yeah, didn't sound like she did, and that was a pretty damn sarcastic tone. And as for Jazz, she's coming across as a battered woman trying to hide behind a girlboss facade.
Are you? Are you really? You are offended by this?
++
You can buy things for your ship. Or she can repair your ship.
She belongs to a faction or will react poorly to someone elses death.
Here is an aspect of her character you will not be able to derive through standard game play, or we wish for you to know about her up front.
++
You got replacement dialog for any of that? Because if not, you've said nothing here. Oh, yagh, lesbians are abuser, which is an agenda you wish to push I suppose. True or not. Is this thread of any actual value? Are they pushing modern woke tropes? Did you get any of that from your dialog examples?
The issue with these lines is that they violate the "show, don't tell" principle of writing. We have characters going out of their way to describe themselves, or others in this case, in overselling ways that don't come across as natural and are nakedly there to serve as a shortcut for proper characterization. Or they're trying to make these characters more impressive with minimal effort. The fixes needed aren't something that can be done with a few line replacements. We're talking about a complete overhaul about what's actually written and how the characters present themselves.
Way to prove my point. They couldn't put in the effort to SHOW me why Naeva is so awesome by having her do something awesome, so they just have her simp TELL me she is.
I'd like to see that 'book'.
This is a game. Not a movie. Not a book.
You clearly don't understand when to tell and NOT show.
For reference Here is a scene that would have made for a humorous conversation between two men reminisced on over drinks. That is where "Tell don't show" becomes useful, as it is a scene that should have never been filmed.
At this point, do you even understand what the supposed fake outrage of this topic was even meant to be?
Why you up voted it? Who you are as a person?
Why you continue to reply?
Again, here is the title that this thread is based on:
To which you replied that you are offended by dialog existing in an RPG, and continue slide down that path defending that as your sole objection.
What the fuck is even going on here! Are you O.D'ing on crazy pills While sniffing powdered estrogen capsules!?!