Persuasion is just as dishonest as manipulation. It is very much the art of getting someone to do something not in their best interest. Just look at how Scott Adams was praising Clinton's supposed campaign advisor Robert Cialdini back in 2016.
Think about it, if someone has decided on a course of action, then they have (hopefully) already weighed the pros and cons of the situation and then chosen the most optimal outcome for them. If someone is persuading against that then they are trying to make them chose a less optimal solution.
I would argue that persuasion and manipulation are very different.
How are they diffrent?
In terms of the honesty and therefore respect of the intentions.
Persuasion is just as dishonest as manipulation. It is very much the art of getting someone to do something not in their best interest. Just look at how Scott Adams was praising Clinton's supposed campaign advisor Robert Cialdini back in 2016.
Think about it, if someone has decided on a course of action, then they have (hopefully) already weighed the pros and cons of the situation and then chosen the most optimal outcome for them. If someone is persuading against that then they are trying to make them chose a less optimal solution.
Adams is by definition a manipulative grifter. Hardly the best example.