This is fair, and I'd agree, but most people aren't considering the philosophical aspect of "when is it a human".

I don't know, are they? That's why I'm wondering what these ban referendums look like. Historically, pro-lifers have been effective in passing state legislation (not referendums).

If Republicans for whatever reason can't accomplish anything, then I would prefer they just not talk about it for bit. But I'm guessing this isn't the case. More likely Republicans are overreaching with the scope of their proposed bans.

To be fair, its not just Republicans. Democrats don't seem to want to address the things that would be a net benefit to all that would also reduce the need for abortions, thus placating Republicans as well.

If abortions actually were rare like many leftists want you to believe, I doubt most people would make as much of a stink about abortion.

That's fair, unfortunately Democrats are evil.

Set a lifetime cap; 3-4 kids seems reasonable to me. After a certain point, you're either abusing the system or stupid enough that we don't want more of your genes spreading.

Hmm, sounds reasonable to me.

Companies already do this, don't they? The crossover between those that do and those that would be likely do go further if they were required to provide better maternity leave is probably almost 1:1.

And after a certain point, trends start to become noticeable and they'd likely get nailed for discrimination.

Also, remote work becoming more prevalent, especially for HR/payroll, has improved that situation.

Well, you just said it: companies need to start getting nailed for discrimination and essentially incentivizing people to get abortions. Our replacement rate is in a bad place, especially for the core demographic of the country.