TDS has taught me that people who are reasonable and intelligent enough to have discourse with on many topics can be unreasonable frothing retards on certain topics beyond the ability to reach them or even be civil.

When you're deep down the rabbit hole, you can't be pulled out. But internet atheism is just a surface-level phenomenon, I think. Hell, I was a New Atheist myself...

In the case of most of these atheists, they are full on Derangement Syndrome and all those things you think they are doing "right" mean nothing on this topic.

Maybe, but I'd rather try than not.