I may or may not be in the minority here, but I oppose the death penalty. I'd rather just have a prison system that works; lock these fucks up for life, stop letting out the most violent bastards to victimize again. Death penalty is largely pointless; the criminals who would get it are either too low IQ to even contemplate the consequences (and so won't be deterred, and keeping them in prison for life has the same outcome as killing them), or too insane to consider the consequences. I just don't like the idea of a system that may occasionally execute innocent men, but doesn't seem to provide any actual benefit as far as deterrents go.
Also, as a recovering lolbertarian, I just don't think the governments should have that final authority over our very lives. It's too much, and it's too permanent. At least if they lock up an innocent, they can eventually be freed. I just don't trust our "justice" system to fairly administrate...well, anything. Furthermore, think about how our current system is set up, and how entrenched things like affirmative action. They'd basically be waiving the death penalty for nonwhites, trannies, and the like anyway.
So, yeah, I don't care how heinous someone acted, I don't think the state should be able to kill them. Just lock these monster up forever. Same outcome for society, less opportunity for abuse or tyranny.
And if that person happens to be wrongly convicted?
It's going to cost something to execute people; you're still going to have to go through a lot of expensive procedures, especially if you want to limit collateral damage.
And, if we're really going to expand the death penalty like some people have suggested, the administrative process alone is going to balloon massively and likely exponentially, as we struggle to make sure we're only executing people who deserve it.
Also, while they're alive, they can in theory be put to work to partially offset that cost. It's not as simple as Prison V Bullet.
Who cares, many innocent people are killed by criminals every day. If one innocent person gets executed but it saves hundreds of other innocent people through deterrence then it's a net positive. Sharia dictates that a thieves arm must be amputated, how many innocent people lost their arms? Doesn't matter because countries with Sharia don't have theft problems now.
Who cares [if the government kills innocent people?]
I care. And I'm sure all the innocent people who get executed would care. And their families. And so on.
many innocent people are killed by criminals every day.
Indeed, and we should probably make sure they can't do that. Which my suggestions also do, without killing innocent people.
Sharia dictates that a thieves arm must be amputated, how many innocent people lost their arms? Doesn't matter because countries with Sharia don't have theft problems now.
I may or may not be in the minority here, but I oppose the death penalty. I'd rather just have a prison system that works; lock these fucks up for life, stop letting out the most violent bastards to victimize again. Death penalty is largely pointless; the criminals who would get it are either too low IQ to even contemplate the consequences (and so won't be deterred, and keeping them in prison for life has the same outcome as killing them), or too insane to consider the consequences. I just don't like the idea of a system that may occasionally execute innocent men, but doesn't seem to provide any actual benefit as far as deterrents go.
Also, as a recovering lolbertarian, I just don't think the governments should have that final authority over our very lives. It's too much, and it's too permanent. At least if they lock up an innocent, they can eventually be freed. I just don't trust our "justice" system to fairly administrate...well, anything. Furthermore, think about how our current system is set up, and how entrenched things like affirmative action. They'd basically be waiving the death penalty for nonwhites, trannies, and the like anyway.
So, yeah, I don't care how heinous someone acted, I don't think the state should be able to kill them. Just lock these monster up forever. Same outcome for society, less opportunity for abuse or tyranny.
Life in jail: millions of dollars.
45 cal round to the back of the head? 40 cents.
I dunno. One seems more effective than the other.
And if that person happens to be wrongly convicted?
It's going to cost something to execute people; you're still going to have to go through a lot of expensive procedures, especially if you want to limit collateral damage.
And, if we're really going to expand the death penalty like some people have suggested, the administrative process alone is going to balloon massively and likely exponentially, as we struggle to make sure we're only executing people who deserve it.
Also, while they're alive, they can in theory be put to work to partially offset that cost. It's not as simple as Prison V Bullet.
Who cares, many innocent people are killed by criminals every day. If one innocent person gets executed but it saves hundreds of other innocent people through deterrence then it's a net positive. Sharia dictates that a thieves arm must be amputated, how many innocent people lost their arms? Doesn't matter because countries with Sharia don't have theft problems now.
I care. And I'm sure all the innocent people who get executed would care. And their families. And so on.
Indeed, and we should probably make sure they can't do that. Which my suggestions also do, without killing innocent people.
Hahahahaha.