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Ron DeSantis opposes sending cluster munitions to Ukraine. In 2016, he voted to allow sending cluster munitions to Saudi Arabia for use in Yemen. (twitter.com)
posted 2 years ago by AntonioOfVenice 2 years ago by AntonioOfVenice +12 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Wars of aggression are bad

What? Do we finally agree?

In the past the US has done them

But now it's cured of wars of aggression? Even though it wasn't ruling out invading the Solomon Islands if it were to allow a Chinese military base?

Russia is in the wrong in this entire war.

Russia is absolutely in the right. 30 years of provocations, expanding NATO even though you (= USG) promised you wouldn't, arming Ukraine in order to better terrorize the Russian population of the Donbas. Oh wait, those were good bombs and good cluster munitions fired into the city center of Donetsk. The West and its puppets can do no wrong, except in the past. It was one nanosecond ago, which means it doesn't count and Russian "war crimes" of saving children do. Love you guys, though I don't understand what you tell yourself to avoid cognitive dissonance.

That's why you have to keep bringing up past western transgressions

That's why I have to bring up stuff that shows you to be the hypocrites that you are.

I don't recall American banks being sanctioned during one of its many wars of aggression, nor American athletes being banned from competing under what they call their flag. Huh, it's almost as if the state religion of the West is hypocrisy.

Because you know this is a Russian war of conquest and you know it is wrong.

I think it's entirely right for Russia to reconquer lands it possessed for 200 years. The US didn't allow the Southern states to secede, did it? The only thing that saddens me is that so many people die (due to the actions of the regimes in the West), whether they are Russians or Ukrainians.

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– GamingTheSystem-01 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

provocations, expanding NATO

Ah yes, remember when NATO rolled tanks into Sweden and Finland and forced them to join? It's a volunteer organization my dude. This false equivalence is the most baffling zigger cope that I just can't figure out.

Wars of aggression are bad. What? Do we finally agree?

Maybe?

I think it's entirely right for Russia to reconquer lands

Oops, I guess not. Honestly your brain needs to be medically documented.

The US didn't allow the Southern states to secede

You .. you know the US fought a war of independence from an imperial power, right? The parallels to Ukraine are pretty strong.

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Ah yes, remember when NATO rolled tanks into Sweden and Finland and forced them to join? It's a volunteer organization my dude.

If it's a 'volunteer organization', does that mean that no one is allowed to object to an aggressive, cluster bomb-using alliance moving to its borders? Well, ready yourself to use your excuse of "THAT WAS IN THE PAST" again, because I distinctly remember something called the Cuban Missile Crisis, my dude, where Cuba voluntarily allowed Soviet troops and missles on its territory, and your country threatened world annihilation over it.,

Oops, I guess not. Honestly your brain needs to be medically documented.

I guess you're now condemning your own Abe Lincoln.

You .. you know the US fought a war of independence from an imperial power, right? The parallels to Ukraine are pretty strong.

The parallels between the US and Ukraine are extremely strong. A region of the country attempted to secede, and the central government took action and reconquered that area.

BTW, just noting that you were unable to offer a defense of your "volunteer organization" flooding Yugoslavia with cluster munitions. I guess "there wuz minez there already n sheeit" didn't fly there, and CNN hadn't told you what to say.

(don't take offense at my aggressive tone, however wrong you are about this, I know you're probably right about some other things or you wouldn't be here)

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– GamingTheSystem-01 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Cuba

Ah yes, remember when nato moved intermediate range nuclear missiles into Ukraine to threaten a first strike against moscow at the start of this conflict? That's what started this whole thing, right?

I guess you're now condemning your own Abe Lincoln.

Ah yes, remember when US collapsed and the confederacy existed peacefully for decades before ex-CIA hitman Abe Lincoln rose to power and reconquered them for the glory of empire? It's just like russia today.

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Ah yes, remember when nato moved intermediate range nuclear missiles into Ukraine

Aaaaaaaah, we went from "IT WAS VOLUNTARY BRUH" to "IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT BRUH WHEN WE DO IT IT'S GOOD!"

to threaten a first strike against moscow at the start of this conflict?

Show me where the USSR threatened a first strike against Washington. I find it absolutely amazing that you can have decent opinions on some matters and then be as brainwashed as the average CNN viewer on foreign policy.

Ah yes, remember when US collapsed and the confederacy existed

Yup, between December and April 1861. Until they started firing on... what the US government considered to be its own in lands claimed by the Confederacy.

peacefully

I guess shelling Donetsk for 8 years is "co-existing peacefully".

It's just like russia today.

Not exactly, Russia is far more justified. The Confederacy was no threat to the Union, after all, nor was it importing weapons from hegemonic powers in order to attack the Union.

Anyway, all this shows is that your political philosophy is nothing more than "WE GOOD, THEM BAD". You had nothing to say in defense of how your country bombarded Yugoslavia with cluster munitions that are killing people to this day, and I heard no justificaton for sanctioning Russia and banning Russian athletes while your country has been going around the world smashing one country after another while facing zero repercussions.

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