When I was in college a decade ago it was already being debated on whether or not college was worth a damn. Most college graduates wound up in jobs that didn't require a degree, degrees had been watered down to the point they weren't worth the paper they were printed on, etc. I remember media outlets talking about these very points, with discussions on the increasing debt everyone held.
Now, everyone seems to have forgotten these discussions from just a decade ago. It is so bizarre. Everyone is still sending their kids off to college. I brought up the topic in a normie bar and I got shut down hard by "right wingers" when everyone was discussing it just a decade ago. It is so bizarre how much America has changed.
For the record, I am still not sure about debt forgiveness. I have seen arguments for and against from dissidents. Obviously, this is the left buying the votes of the young. But the old right is playing into their hands like the fools they are... maybe that is why the discussion got shut down. Turned into yet another dividing point between the left NPCS and the "right" grillers/ normies.
There are certainly more elegant solutions, and I think you are on to something in noticing how those old conversations just disappeared.
Just spitballing -- what if we made universities actually publish their ROI for all programs receiving financial aid? And then discharged the debt to the universities for failing to hold up their end of the bargain? I promise you the problem in universities would clean itself up overnight.
Yeah, actually. What I proposed is supposed to be the eventual compromise position.
If you make colleges publish their ROI and forgive everything above that number -- women with dumbfuck degrees make out like bandits. But you have to understand women always make out like bandits; it's the natural way of things. You would probably have more pushback if you didn't disproportionately take care of women anyway.
But with women making out like bandits a lot of people get a monkey off their back, and universities have to reckon with the fact they took millions of federally guaranteed loans and intentionally ruined that investment. They get punished, and probably reformed.
It's a very idealistic scenario, I grant you that... but that is how we could theoretically address the debt crisis and not punish the taxpayers or the students to an extreme degree
When I was in college a decade ago it was already being debated on whether or not college was worth a damn. Most college graduates wound up in jobs that didn't require a degree, degrees had been watered down to the point they weren't worth the paper they were printed on, etc. I remember media outlets talking about these very points, with discussions on the increasing debt everyone held.
Now, everyone seems to have forgotten these discussions from just a decade ago. It is so bizarre. Everyone is still sending their kids off to college. I brought up the topic in a normie bar and I got shut down hard by "right wingers" when everyone was discussing it just a decade ago. It is so bizarre how much America has changed.
For the record, I am still not sure about debt forgiveness. I have seen arguments for and against from dissidents. Obviously, this is the left buying the votes of the young. But the old right is playing into their hands like the fools they are... maybe that is why the discussion got shut down. Turned into yet another dividing point between the left NPCS and the "right" grillers/ normies.
There are certainly more elegant solutions, and I think you are on to something in noticing how those old conversations just disappeared.
Just spitballing -- what if we made universities actually publish their ROI for all programs receiving financial aid? And then discharged the debt to the universities for failing to hold up their end of the bargain? I promise you the problem in universities would clean itself up overnight.
You think the ROI argument will pass when women are the majority of college students with shit degrees? Why do you hate women, you misogynist?
Yeah, actually. What I proposed is supposed to be the eventual compromise position.
If you make colleges publish their ROI and forgive everything above that number -- women with dumbfuck degrees make out like bandits. But you have to understand women always make out like bandits; it's the natural way of things. You would probably have more pushback if you didn't disproportionately take care of women anyway.
But with women making out like bandits a lot of people get a monkey off their back, and universities have to reckon with the fact they took millions of federally guaranteed loans and intentionally ruined that investment. They get punished, and probably reformed.
It's a very idealistic scenario, I grant you that... but that is how we could theoretically address the debt crisis and not punish the taxpayers or the students to an extreme degree