Overall, 3759 individuals (0.06%; 52.5% assigned male sex at birth) were identified as transgender at a median age of 22 years (IQR, 18-31 years) and followed up during 21 404 person-years, during which 92 suicide attempts, 12 suicides, and 245 suicide-unrelated deaths occurred. Standardized suicide attempt rates per 100 000 person-years were 498 for transgender vs 71 for nontransgender individuals
These percentages differences are again only seen in people with severe mental illness (bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, PTSD, etc).
that's still 92 suicide attempts and 12 "successful" suicides out of 3759 people.
even if that is considered high, and even if hypothetically the numbers were manipulated - it's still not even in the same universe as the 41% suicide rate meme.
as the twitter thread shows, that number was apparently produced via really bad methodology - yet trans right organizations have seemingly embraced it. probably because they need the oppression narrative.
I think when we stumble upon a widely accepted narrative that may be yet another leftist fabrication, it's worth highlighting it.
The suicide attempt rate in the US is not comparable to Denmark by any quantifiable measure, what the study DOES show is that troons universally commit and attempt suicide at the same rate as severe mental illnesses regardless of country.
again, not contesting any of that, nor do I particularly care (trannies are mentally ill, no objections to that claim on my side). I made this thread because I personally was not aware that the suicide rates claimed were nonsense.
The US ones are semi debatable because of 1. Methodology, 2. Dropout rate, and 3. Length of study. I think it was the Canadian one that had a silent 50% dropout rate that was never followed up on. I never cared about the 41% meme because that was over suicide attempts over actual deaths. Under that metric women Attempt suicide more than men despite being less that 25% of actual suicides. What is shown in all the data though is that troons are constantly at the same rate as severe mental illnesses for suicide, suicide attempts, and other cause death (homicide, drug overdose, etc)
From the study
These percentages differences are again only seen in people with severe mental illness (bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, PTSD, etc).
that's still 92 suicide attempts and 12 "successful" suicides out of 3759 people.
even if that is considered high, and even if hypothetically the numbers were manipulated - it's still not even in the same universe as the 41% suicide rate meme.
as the twitter thread shows, that number was apparently produced via really bad methodology - yet trans right organizations have seemingly embraced it. probably because they need the oppression narrative.
I think when we stumble upon a widely accepted narrative that may be yet another leftist fabrication, it's worth highlighting it.
The suicide attempt rate in the US is not comparable to Denmark by any quantifiable measure, what the study DOES show is that troons universally commit and attempt suicide at the same rate as severe mental illnesses regardless of country.
again, not contesting any of that, nor do I particularly care (trannies are mentally ill, no objections to that claim on my side). I made this thread because I personally was not aware that the suicide rates claimed were nonsense.
The US ones are semi debatable because of 1. Methodology, 2. Dropout rate, and 3. Length of study. I think it was the Canadian one that had a silent 50% dropout rate that was never followed up on. I never cared about the 41% meme because that was over suicide attempts over actual deaths. Under that metric women Attempt suicide more than men despite being less that 25% of actual suicides. What is shown in all the data though is that troons are constantly at the same rate as severe mental illnesses for suicide, suicide attempts, and other cause death (homicide, drug overdose, etc)