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Republican primary voters most popular issues: This is the way (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 2 years ago by dekachin 2 years ago by dekachin +56 / -0
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– dekachin [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

The strategy you said it should follow.

True. The Russians have usually come around to the correct strategy even if they take longer than they should getting there.

The whole Wagner/Bakhmut thing was a total waste of resources so it won't be repeated.

This will leave the war stalemated in the big picture. Sure, there might be some small advances here & there, but nothing big like the early days or the war or Kharkiv or Kherson.

You said General Armageddon (Surovkin) was holding the line defensively and baiting attacks, but that Putin then listened to Gerasimov in attacking Bakhmut (which did not hold, btw, contrary to NYT claims). Now it seems they are absorbing.

Yes Surovkin was right & now Russia is able to hold because he laid the foundation for it. Bakhmut & Prigozhin were wastes of resources. Sure, he technically "took" it as a ruin, but didn't make any progress or gains beyond that, and the cost was so great that Russia won't try to do it again elsewhere.

Neither side has the ability to execute a successful large scale offensive anymore.

Maybe the Russian general staff is reading your comments. Let's hope so, because I want Odessa and Kharkov at the very least.

Hahah I just figure out the obvious answers faster than some other people thanks to a lifetime of reading about military history & being into strategy.

You can't throw them out of power.

You can bc they're all Democrats. A DeSantis Admin would be run by realists like Elbridge Colby, not neocons like [every Ukraine cheerleading think tank].

Just like McCarthy (who otherwise has surprised positively) said that he would not support a 'blank check' but then turned out to be the same old, same old.

I don't believe he has let through any more Ukraine funding since saying that. Biden's Ukraine funding all came from last year before the Republicans took over. There hasn't been any new funding this year. Correct me if you can find a bill in Congress providing it.

This is why Biden had the pentagon claim an "accounting error" to lowball all the value of funding already given - so he could squeeze more into the $113b.

Why? Russia is not bothering me. They're not occupying my country nor controlling my pathetic excuses for leaders.

Maybe not you but most of Europe except for France feels very threatened by Russia.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

The whole Wagner/Bakhmut thing was a total waste of resources so it won't be repeated.

The question is: who lost more? As I understand it, Zelensky was actually trying to hold the city, while the Russians were trying to bleed the other side like the Germans at Verdun. Else, their actions make no sense. Or maybe getting prisoners killed was good trade-off vs. killing elite Ukrainian units.

Maybe we'll know 20 years form now.

Yes Surovkin was right & now Russia is able to hold because he laid the foundation for it. Bakhmut & Prigozhin were wastes of resources. Sure, he technically "took" it as a ruin, but didn't make any progress or gains beyond that, and the cost was so great that Russia won't try to do it again elsewhere.

The lying media is now reporting that Surovkin has been arrested because of the Wagner probe, which just fills me with such utter despair.

You can bc they're all Democrats. A DeSantis Admin would be run by realists like Elbridge Colby, not neocons like [every Ukraine cheerleading think tank].

Do they really make the decisions though? With Trump, we saw that no matter who's in charge, the neocons always remain in charge. And Obama continued the neocon Victoria Nuland's reign even though she was a Cheney hack.

I don't believe he has let through any more Ukraine funding since saying that. Biden's Ukraine funding all came from last year before the Republicans took over. There hasn't been any new funding this year. Correct me if you can find a bill in Congress providing it.

I think you are correct, but they pushed through a massive bill so that McCarthy wouldn't have to immediately discredit himself. When the time comes, he'll push it through. I don't think the Twenty are strong enough to prevent that, McCarthy would sooner make a deal with the Democrats than give up on neoconism.

Note: I regard McCarthy fairly positively, but it is what it is.

Maybe not you but most of Europe except for France feels very threatened by Russia.

The only ones who actually do are the Baltic states and Poland, and they're of course wrong to feel threatened. Spain, Italy, even Germany do not feel threatened. The threat inflation is just an excuse for their proxy war.

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– dekachin [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

The question is: who lost more?

Russia lost more as you'd always expect from being the attackers, though the K:D ratio was less favorable than other places once Bakhmut was surrounded on 3 sides.

Ukraine has plenty of manpower & isn't going to lose on manpower grounds. Also it didn't have its best units there anyway. So Russia could keep doing that strategy over & over & it would never really get anywhere. Ukraine isn't going to run out of people.

Only way I see for Russia to win is to focus on the artillery war not infantry battles & win by massively outproducing the West on artillery ammo until Ukraine is too ammo starved to keep up its defenses.

The lying media is now reporting that Surovkin has been arrested because of the Wagner probe, which just fills me with such utter despair.

I am skeptical of this as well. Surovkin is unfortunately associated with Prigozhin & thus not favored by Shiogu, who is clearly the winner in this whole debacle. So Shiogu might be using Wagner as an excuse to take out Surovkin. Maybe he will be reassigned out of the war.

Do they really make the decisions though? With Trump, we saw that no matter who's in charge, the neocons always remain in charge. And Obama continued the neocon Victoria Nuland's reign even though she was a Cheney hack.

Trump was an idiot who didn't know how to put together an Admin & so just picked whoever kissed his ass. DeSantis is different & knows how to build an effective team with no leaks.

Also Nuland started in the Clinton admin & the GWB admin foolishly kept her & promoted her.

Note: I regard McCarthy fairly positively, but it is what it is.

Republicans don't want to vote for more money for Ukraine. However, if the Democrats used it as a bargaining chip & said "we will give you $50b more for the Pentagon if you give us $20b for Ukraine" would Republicans cave in & say yes? Very likely.

Question is if even the Democrats want to help Ukraine had enough to be willing to spend political capital on it like that.

The only ones who actually do are the Baltic states and Poland, and they're of course wrong to feel threatened. Spain, Italy, even Germany do not feel threatened.

This is true & I also don't think Putin would attack NATO. If anything he would attack Georgia or something.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Russia lost more as you'd always expect from being the attackers, though the K:D ratio was less favorable than other places once Bakhmut was surrounded on 3 sides.

Then I don't get why Ukrainians were complaining about the defense of Bakhmut, and that they were losing men in the meat-grinder for no benefit as the city would fall eventually. A psy-op?

Ukraine has plenty of manpower & isn't going to lose on manpower grounds. Also it didn't have its best units there anyway. So Russia could keep doing that strategy over & over & it would never really get anywhere. Ukraine isn't going to run out of people.

You don't need just people, you need people willing and able to fight. The monumental failures of this failed state will lead its people to not want to fight, and hopefully to turn on the corrupt West for sending them to their deaths for the benefit of the US empire.

I am skeptical of this as well. Surovkin is unfortunately associated with Prigozhin & thus not favored by Shiogu, who is clearly the winner in this whole debacle. So Shiogu might be using Wagner as an excuse to take out Surovkin. Maybe he will be reassigned out of the war.

It's funny that you support Ukraine and yet have such respect for Surovkin that you think it's 'unfortunate' that he may fall victim to these machinations.

The Ukraine supporters I've seen want Shoigu to remain in place because they think he's incompetent.

Trump was an idiot who didn't know how to put together an Admin & so just picked whoever kissed his ass. DeSantis is different & knows how to build an effective team with no leaks.

I think so. But it remains to be seen how much you can accomplish when swimming against the tide, which is elite power. I don't see DeSantis succeeding in taking on the security state, even if he desired to (and I think he's too smart to even consider it) - as they have six ways to Sunday of getting back at you.

Republicans don't want to vote for more money for Ukraine. However, if the Democrats used it as a bargaining chip & said "we will give you $50b more for the Pentagon if you give us $20b for Ukraine" would Republicans cave in & say yes? Very likely.

Seems like it's a done deal then. Both parties are in the pockets of the military-industrial complex. I know you deny this, but 800+ billion is not nothing, and it's not even controversial among most Democrats. I've seen your tweets about a China hawk GOP claiming that China secretly spends more, but of course anyone who wants to boost war spending to 10 trillion would say something like that.

Question is if even the Democrats want to help Ukraine had enough to be willing to spend political capital on it like that.

Only 1/4 of GOP voted against it last time. Every last Democrat votes for. I don't see that failing. Even if Gaetz and others threatened to remove McCarthy, he'd just make a deal with the Democrats.

This is true & I also don't think Putin would attack NATO. If anything he would attack Georgia or something.

Georgia is behaving itself, so I don't expect that either. In his position, I'd attack NATO supplies through countries like Germany and Poland, because they're engaging in hostile acts, and dare the West to end the world over it. But cautious as he is, he's probably not even going to do that, which just makes the West more arrogant and aggressive.

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– dekachin [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Then I don't get why Ukrainians were complaining about the defense of Bakhmut, and that they were losing men in the meat-grinder for no benefit as the city would fall eventually. A psy-op?

Because the K:D ratio got progressively worse in Bakhmut later on. It was never worse than 1:1 but it was much worse than other sectors, hence the complaints.

It's funny that you support Ukraine and yet have such respect for Surovkin that you think it's 'unfortunate' that he may fall victim to these machinations. The Ukraine supporters I've seen want Shoigu to remain in place because they think he's incompetent.

I agree Shoigu is incompetent as a general. He is a politician in a uniform. That & his ethnicity [being non-Russian means he could never lead a coup, so he's safer to promote] are why he's risen to the top.

I am not sure Surovkin is a great general, but he had enough common sense to come in & correctly asses the situation then take corrective measures to turn the situation around for Russia in late 2022. You can respect generals on the opposing side even if you're trying to kill them, like Rommel or Yamamoto.

I don't see DeSantis succeeding in taking on the security state, even if he desired to (and I think he's too smart to even consider it) - as they have six ways to Sunday of getting back at you.

We will see. He's our last hope. If he fails, then the future has no good endings.

I've seen your tweets about a China hawk GOP claiming that China secretly spends more, but of course anyone who wants to boost war spending to 10 trillion would say something like that.

Possibly, but we have to take the threat seriously & plan for worst case scenarios.

Only 1/4 of GOP voted against it last time. Every last Democrat votes for. I don't see that failing. Even if Gaetz and others threatened to remove McCarthy, he'd just make a deal with the Democrats.

Public attitudes have massively changed since a year ago when that happened.

Georgia is behaving itself, so I don't expect that either.

Georgia has been pushing to join NATO, though, which is supposedly Russia's big red line.

I'd attack NATO supplies through countries like Germany and Poland, because they're engaging in hostile acts, and dare the West to end the world over it.

They'd just respond with conventional air strikes & wipe out your forces quick because NATO ISR & precious weapons are so far superior. They wouldn't use nukes.

NATO knows they have overwhelming convention military superiority over Russia so Eastern Europe is just looking for an excuse to invoke article 5.

Russia isn't going to use nukes. Putin & friends don't want their Dachas nuked.

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