That's why its only noticeable on a single person who is plenty unlikable on their own to get downvotes by the truckload completely irrelevant of whatever they do.
When I've seen ConPro posts about us, many of the users are talking about the importance of pushing their narrative, even down to literally using the term "Forum Sliding".
you really are doing a terrible job arguing your point beyond stating the same thing over and over of "stormfags are special and super duper evil, they are so powerful man you don't even know! every rule and thought must be especially built around them!"
You're not getting my point. They aren't any more special than Communists. You first claimed I was saying they themselves were a secret cabal. They're not; they're operating off of systemic aggression to push their meta-narrative. Now you're saying that they're entirely unique, but I keep telling you that they are Leftists and they are doing what all Leftists do: pushing the meta-narrative for ideological conquest.
They operate like anyone else who is an ideologically possessed zealot.
Yes many times. I even intentionally ramped up doing so a few months back.
Well, I typically won't take actions if I don't see them. Why don't you show me one. I will not punish you for showing me comments, as this is for demonstration purposes. I'll explain my approach and response.
You are listening to them talk their big game and act like they are super nebulous assassins. I'm talking about their literal effect on the community, where if Imp didn't call them out by name to blame for his downvotes no one would even notice they existed unless they were a cross poster.
Antifa also thinks they are resisting fascism and pushing back x-phobias, but I also don't consider them a real threat to my ability to call them niggerfaggots.
Now you're saying that they're entirely unique
I never said they were unique, because I know they aren't. The majority of them are just repeating random /pol/ facts and memes, the same way any of us do with every other facet of this "culture war." That's also why I find treating them the way you keep insisting is necessary absurd, because they are regular people saying regular things (except this thing is special because xyz and boom, forum is dead!).
In fact, it always starts with a random nobody getting hit for a joke with no greater depth. I started to be softer on them myself because you yourself literally banned me years ago for a spell over saying "Hall of Coats" because it sounded funny in my head.
Their greatest recruitment tool is jannies trying to keep them from talking, granting them infinite martyr and underdog status that is obvious for anyone to see once your own narrative of them being ultra bad news fails to hold up.
Why don't you show me one.
Honestly, I'll pass and just concede the point. Because I don't feel like combing and the first few pages are mostly arguing here and about manga.
I disagree that no one notices them. Everyone notices them. Everyone noticed in KIA2 on Reddit. Everyone also noticed when they were forced to leave. Reddit KIA2 and Win KIA2 are developing different audience cultures. And I'm sure it is them talking big game, but they genuinely do follow through. This is contrasted to when even one of the Leftist subreddit mods decided to start posting in our subreddit, and then just stopped after a while. They chose to discontinue their effort after about a month; but these guys don't.
I started to be softer on them myself because you yourself literally banned me years ago for a spell over saying "Hall of Coats" because it sounded funny in my head.
I have no idea, dawg. I'd have to see the original comment.
Their greatest recruitment tool is jannies trying to keep them from talking, granting them infinite martyr and underdog status that is obvious for anyone to see once your own narrative of them being ultra bad news fails to hold up.
No, their greatest tool is unrelenting persistence and collective aggression. Sure janny ty-ranny is always an argument for recruiting. But that's never been what makes them actually effective. It's picking a target, and never stopping, and maintaining ideological hegemony through repetition, maliciousness, and disgust sensitivity (both to and from them).
Because I don't feel like combing and the first few pages are mostly arguing here and about manga.
That's fine. If something comes up again, feel free to show me one later.
I mean, can you point out what effects they are having? When people are having discussions about noting them? Because I spend a lot of time here and literally only see anything come up when Imp is involved, and I can understand him developing a troll brigade. This ConPro thing seems more like a paranoid delusion than a tangible fear.
No, their greatest tool is unrelenting persistence and collective aggression
I'm only speaking from my own experience. I spent over a decade on 4chan without developing much stormfaggotry despite it being constant. I only began to soften on them by being exposed to those trying to combat them. Because those combatants always look like actual idiots both in terms of "just stop noticing, lalalala I can't hear you" disregarding of credible data and being obsessed with combating it to a point of absurdity.
And not just random people. People's whose intelligence I know and respect who were suddenly debating at a grade schooler level simply because of the topic at hand. Like, everything you just accused them of I see more in the pro-semite category than most of the anti-semites here.
Especially the repetition and maliciousness. It could all be a ploy to use respectability politics to gain a better image, but that just raises the question of why engage with them while looking that ugly? If they are going to act like that, you should expect to need to maintain yourself.
When I've seen ConPro posts about us, many of the users are talking about the importance of pushing their narrative, even down to literally using the term "Forum Sliding".
You're not getting my point. They aren't any more special than Communists. You first claimed I was saying they themselves were a secret cabal. They're not; they're operating off of systemic aggression to push their meta-narrative. Now you're saying that they're entirely unique, but I keep telling you that they are Leftists and they are doing what all Leftists do: pushing the meta-narrative for ideological conquest.
They operate like anyone else who is an ideologically possessed zealot.
Well, I typically won't take actions if I don't see them. Why don't you show me one. I will not punish you for showing me comments, as this is for demonstration purposes. I'll explain my approach and response.
You are listening to them talk their big game and act like they are super nebulous assassins. I'm talking about their literal effect on the community, where if Imp didn't call them out by name to blame for his downvotes no one would even notice they existed unless they were a cross poster.
Antifa also thinks they are resisting fascism and pushing back x-phobias, but I also don't consider them a real threat to my ability to call them niggerfaggots.
I never said they were unique, because I know they aren't. The majority of them are just repeating random /pol/ facts and memes, the same way any of us do with every other facet of this "culture war." That's also why I find treating them the way you keep insisting is necessary absurd, because they are regular people saying regular things (except this thing is special because xyz and boom, forum is dead!).
In fact, it always starts with a random nobody getting hit for a joke with no greater depth. I started to be softer on them myself because you yourself literally banned me years ago for a spell over saying "Hall of Coats" because it sounded funny in my head.
Their greatest recruitment tool is jannies trying to keep them from talking, granting them infinite martyr and underdog status that is obvious for anyone to see once your own narrative of them being ultra bad news fails to hold up.
Honestly, I'll pass and just concede the point. Because I don't feel like combing and the first few pages are mostly arguing here and about manga.
I disagree that no one notices them. Everyone notices them. Everyone noticed in KIA2 on Reddit. Everyone also noticed when they were forced to leave. Reddit KIA2 and Win KIA2 are developing different audience cultures. And I'm sure it is them talking big game, but they genuinely do follow through. This is contrasted to when even one of the Leftist subreddit mods decided to start posting in our subreddit, and then just stopped after a while. They chose to discontinue their effort after about a month; but these guys don't.
I have no idea, dawg. I'd have to see the original comment.
No, their greatest tool is unrelenting persistence and collective aggression. Sure janny ty-ranny is always an argument for recruiting. But that's never been what makes them actually effective. It's picking a target, and never stopping, and maintaining ideological hegemony through repetition, maliciousness, and disgust sensitivity (both to and from them).
That's fine. If something comes up again, feel free to show me one later.
I mean, can you point out what effects they are having? When people are having discussions about noting them? Because I spend a lot of time here and literally only see anything come up when Imp is involved, and I can understand him developing a troll brigade. This ConPro thing seems more like a paranoid delusion than a tangible fear.
I'm only speaking from my own experience. I spent over a decade on 4chan without developing much stormfaggotry despite it being constant. I only began to soften on them by being exposed to those trying to combat them. Because those combatants always look like actual idiots both in terms of "just stop noticing, lalalala I can't hear you" disregarding of credible data and being obsessed with combating it to a point of absurdity.
And not just random people. People's whose intelligence I know and respect who were suddenly debating at a grade schooler level simply because of the topic at hand. Like, everything you just accused them of I see more in the pro-semite category than most of the anti-semites here.
Especially the repetition and maliciousness. It could all be a ploy to use respectability politics to gain a better image, but that just raises the question of why engage with them while looking that ugly? If they are going to act like that, you should expect to need to maintain yourself.