they were definitely not integrated in to German society lmao . They moved around Europe for thousands of years without ever integrating and always remaining as jews
"The jews in Vienna weren't integrated into Germany!" is a desperate claim. Other jews in other places doesn't mean that those jews weren't integrated.
Jews were not expelled from every German city, and jews had long settled into many cities in Germany before and after unification, whether you like it or not. Protestants and Catholics had also long since integrated into Germany after having entire cities burned to the ground, and populations violently displaced or starved after the 30 Years War. Both were integrated Germans, so were jews.
Most of Europe was "anti semitic" for most of history. I could either believe what my European ancestors said about jews or i can believe what jews said about my European ancestors. . Im more inclined to believe what my European ancestors said.
If you believe your European ancestors, then you'd believe that there are not only German jews, but European ones.
Jews lived in Europe for centuries, and lived in specific places for centuries. Anti-Semitism was never simply the uniform norm for all European societies. Anti-Semitism was something that typically happened when a king decided he'd rather not pay back his loans, when he could just secure himself politically. Jews got the same treatment the Knights Templar did.
As much as jews were expelled, they were asked for money by the same people. Sometimes more than once. The fact that jews were invited into kingdoms, then expelled, then invited back, then expelled again, then invited back again, shows how the con game works.
The harshest criticism you could give to jews is that they don't learn not to come back when invited, and to stop loaning christians money.
The ancient Europeans never considered jews to be one of them lmao. If they were not considered outsiders they would not have been expelled again and again. Ancient Europeans never considered jews as one of them.
they were definitely not integrated in to German society lmao . They moved around Europe for thousands of years without ever integrating and always remaining as jews
Either way they still wouldnt have been German.
"The jews in Vienna weren't integrated into Germany!" is a desperate claim. Other jews in other places doesn't mean that those jews weren't integrated.
Jews were not expelled from every German city, and jews had long settled into many cities in Germany before and after unification, whether you like it or not. Protestants and Catholics had also long since integrated into Germany after having entire cities burned to the ground, and populations violently displaced or starved after the 30 Years War. Both were integrated Germans, so were jews.
Most of Europe was "anti semitic" for most of history. I could either believe what my European ancestors said about jews or i can believe what jews said about my European ancestors. . Im more inclined to believe what my European ancestors said.
If you believe your European ancestors, then you'd believe that there are not only German jews, but European ones.
Jews lived in Europe for centuries, and lived in specific places for centuries. Anti-Semitism was never simply the uniform norm for all European societies. Anti-Semitism was something that typically happened when a king decided he'd rather not pay back his loans, when he could just secure himself politically. Jews got the same treatment the Knights Templar did.
As much as jews were expelled, they were asked for money by the same people. Sometimes more than once. The fact that jews were invited into kingdoms, then expelled, then invited back, then expelled again, then invited back again, shows how the con game works.
The harshest criticism you could give to jews is that they don't learn not to come back when invited, and to stop loaning christians money.
The ancient Europeans never considered jews to be one of them lmao. If they were not considered outsiders they would not have been expelled again and again. Ancient Europeans never considered jews as one of them.