What is everyone's opinion on those far from weak, artistic motivation, you too can become an alpha male, man's life starts at 30 videos that have propagated all over the place on YouTube? Although some of the advice is all right, and men certainly can improve themselves, they seem to just be more of the old tradcon "man up and do your part" crap that the blue pill normies push, as well as the old "you too can become an alpha male if you buy my 6 dvd set" grift. They also seem to be a subtle way to try and push men back into the dating and work market place despite them being such shit holes.
Problem is, why would any man take any risk in such a society or try and protect it? And why not become a criminal if a man "lives in the dark" and his only role is to grind? These arguments don't make sense based on past healthy societies, as healthy societies always tried to marry men off at a young age to keep them invested in society.
What say everyone? Is this some sort of grift, or coordinated attempt to push men back into society?
The issue is that a man's life doesn't start at 30, it's just that so many Millennial have an arrested development.
"Man Up and Do Your Part" isn't blue pilled, and is unfortunately the base level truth: no one is coming to save you. You can only save yourself, and you'll just have to get stronger.
You can't worry about society. Society is fallen, you're not going to fix it by yourself. You can only work to be a useful and valuable person to yourself, your friends, and your family. Building a community one friend at a time. Then building a future one child at a time.
Own property, build wealth, literally befriend your neighbors, make yourself valuable and beneficial to them. Find the community leaders, and work with them to help everyone. Build connections between the many atomotized people of your locality. Eventually, choose a wife from the friends of your friends who will help keep you working. Help her to ground her to reality and, let her help you navigate those relationships you've built, while keeping her value high. Then have children and teach them the same principles, and make them do the same thing.
If you can do that for 3 generations, we'll have a civilization again. Most generations were able to do that at 20 and younger because they had strong families that could make boys into men sooner. We've failed for at least 3 generations to do that, so the adolescence has been lengthened to nearly impossible time frames. Time frames that would normally lead to total collapse in previous eras. But, we can still start, even if it's late. It's just going to be hard.
I'm not a Christian. I'm not asking you to save anyone's soul. I don't think you should even waste your time on trying to fix your whole community as it is, rather than building a new one for yourself. Just focus on your immediate environment.
Everything else is likely a grift, and at best: educational material.
This is all well and good as long as you're manning up for yourself and the people you care about. Doing it for the sake of a rotting society that hates you for who you are is tradcuck shit. Men should build their lives and live for themselves instead of sacrificing for a society that hates them.
I agree with your premise here, even if I'm not sure that we can apply it.
Fundamentally, I'd be splitting hairs to disagree with you. Society can be made up of what you build. You can't change society by trying to address the state, you actually have to build a culture, social system, and family structure in a thoughtful and disciplined manner. If enough people do it, then you will actually get a society worth dying for.
"man up and do your part" is 100% bluepill slave thinking.
men, only protect and provide when you are compensated and respected for your effort. everyone else can die in a ditch complaining about "fairness" and "doing the right thing".
I only half-heartedly disagree with you.
We need to build a society that would naturally reward, compensate, and respect us for our efforts, which is when we can say "man up and do your part" to a society that actually needs and respects you.
We just don't have that now.