It’s interesting to compare how the various nations in the Anglosphere are and aren’t woke. The UK has the insanity with the thought police and their “non-crime hate incident” shit, which America’s Bill of Rights all but makes impossible (or more accurately, if we starting doing that shit over here, it would be a sign that the US is well and truly over). But the UK apparently has the stomach to criticize a minority politician for taking a shit on other minorities and the stomach to level actual consequences upon her for doing that, and I really can’t imagine that happening in the US, where the progressive stack rules and a black leader could say whatever they want about Jews, even beyond the general freedom of speech: certainly, if Ilhan Omar showed her anti-Semitism another 100 times, her own party would still not do anything about it because she’s a black Muslim woman and that’s higher in the stack than Jew. So on these issues, it’s a draw: USA 1, UK 1. I’m less familiar with other English-speaking nations but it seems similar elsewhere, in that each nation has its areas of woke capture and its areas where it resists.
Except Canada, of course, which has just chosen to speedrun full retardation.
a black leader could say whatever they want about Jews, even beyond the general freedom of speech
They most definitely cannot. Blacks have a longer leash in the US thanks to them being more of the electorate and racism narratives against them being used against whites, but they are on a leash nonetheless. See what happened to Kanye.
Ilhan Omar showed her anti-Semitism another 100 times, her own party would still not do anything about it
I don't recall her saying anything anti-Semitic. Both parties condemned her, and the Dems tried to primary her.
she’s a black Muslim woman and that’s higher in the stack than Jew
Where do you guys get these nutty ideas? Can you name a black Muslim organization more powerful than the ADL?
Your points are well taken, other than “the Dems tried to primary her.” First, hoping she might lose her next election but otherwise throwing up hands and supporting her when she wins is nowhere close to the UK Labour Party stripping their girl of the whip position. That’s what an old singer called “wishin’ and hopin’” whereas the UK party actually did something about the situation. Second, according to that article the primary challengers were “attorney Antone Melton-Meaux, diversity and inclusion advocate John Mason, Uber driver and former Minnesota Department of Revenue employee Haji Yussuf, and underinsured health care community clinic co-founder Leila Shukri Adan.” So… maybe one semi-serious contender (the attorney)? Maybe? Did this gallery of clowns have significant party backing, did prominent Dems campaign for any of them? When Omar inevitably won, did the party give her the cold shoulder or tell her to keep herself in check? It’s a big ol’ no on each of those questions.
First, hoping she might lose her next election but otherwise throwing up hands and supporting her when she wins is nowhere close to the UK Labour Party stripping their girl of the whip position.
I know. Like I said, in the US, blacks have a longer leash. She also said something different.
It was definitely a serious attempt at ousting her. It wasn't super overt because, as I said, the Dems have to manage their diversity coalition so they have to manage this stuff carefully, but they made a serious attempt at her.
"Mr. Melton-Meaux had received extensive financial support from national groups hoping to see the incumbent ousted. During the second quarter of 2020, Mr. Melton-Meaux raised six times as much as Ms. Omar did, and an analysis from The MinnPost showed about 20 percent of his large-dollar donations came with bundling help from pro-Israel political action committees. Mr. Melton-Meaux also received the endorsement of The Star Tribune, the region’s flagship newspaper."
It’s interesting to compare how the various nations in the Anglosphere are and aren’t woke. The UK has the insanity with the thought police and their “non-crime hate incident” shit, which America’s Bill of Rights all but makes impossible (or more accurately, if we starting doing that shit over here, it would be a sign that the US is well and truly over). But the UK apparently has the stomach to criticize a minority politician for taking a shit on other minorities and the stomach to level actual consequences upon her for doing that, and I really can’t imagine that happening in the US, where the progressive stack rules and a black leader could say whatever they want about Jews, even beyond the general freedom of speech: certainly, if Ilhan Omar showed her anti-Semitism another 100 times, her own party would still not do anything about it because she’s a black Muslim woman and that’s higher in the stack than Jew. So on these issues, it’s a draw: USA 1, UK 1. I’m less familiar with other English-speaking nations but it seems similar elsewhere, in that each nation has its areas of woke capture and its areas where it resists.
Except Canada, of course, which has just chosen to speedrun full retardation.
They most definitely cannot. Blacks have a longer leash in the US thanks to them being more of the electorate and racism narratives against them being used against whites, but they are on a leash nonetheless. See what happened to Kanye.
I don't recall her saying anything anti-Semitic. Both parties condemned her, and the Dems tried to primary her.
Where do you guys get these nutty ideas? Can you name a black Muslim organization more powerful than the ADL?
Your points are well taken, other than “the Dems tried to primary her.” First, hoping she might lose her next election but otherwise throwing up hands and supporting her when she wins is nowhere close to the UK Labour Party stripping their girl of the whip position. That’s what an old singer called “wishin’ and hopin’” whereas the UK party actually did something about the situation. Second, according to that article the primary challengers were “attorney Antone Melton-Meaux, diversity and inclusion advocate John Mason, Uber driver and former Minnesota Department of Revenue employee Haji Yussuf, and underinsured health care community clinic co-founder Leila Shukri Adan.” So… maybe one semi-serious contender (the attorney)? Maybe? Did this gallery of clowns have significant party backing, did prominent Dems campaign for any of them? When Omar inevitably won, did the party give her the cold shoulder or tell her to keep herself in check? It’s a big ol’ no on each of those questions.
I know. Like I said, in the US, blacks have a longer leash. She also said something different.
It was definitely a serious attempt at ousting her. It wasn't super overt because, as I said, the Dems have to manage their diversity coalition so they have to manage this stuff carefully, but they made a serious attempt at her.
"Mr. Melton-Meaux had received extensive financial support from national groups hoping to see the incumbent ousted. During the second quarter of 2020, Mr. Melton-Meaux raised six times as much as Ms. Omar did, and an analysis from The MinnPost showed about 20 percent of his large-dollar donations came with bundling help from pro-Israel political action committees. Mr. Melton-Meaux also received the endorsement of The Star Tribune, the region’s flagship newspaper."
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