I didn't wanna get involved because god damn that was a massive thread, but it does get me thinking: does fictional media have any influence in the things that people do?
I say yes, if only because the left has been programmed through the Long March through both fictional and nonfictional media, hundreds of shows, etc, and the impact of fictional media on people should be quite obvious, considering we boycott shows for being woke and whatnot, but I guess what I’m trying to ask is how much of an influence is it, and is it worth regulating, why or why not?
I know people on both aspects of that whole loli debate, I know people who like lolis that have had to report people to the cops for pedo shit, and I know a loli lover who admitted to “guiding” someone through their transition, so I can’t say that I really have my own opinion on it tbh, I just think that the issue is gonna come up at some point because if society ever does come back to normal, we’re gonna have to deal with “the people who were trying to enduce my child into transitioning watch these weird Japanese cartoons and the weird Japanese cartoons have depictions of young kids in sexual situations”.
/u/Steampunk_Moustache actually brought up something that I honestly never thought about, and well, maybe they can explain it better here than in that chaotic mess of a thread. What exactly makes art so different? Like it was mentioned several times that anime characters look nothing like actual people (which very much depends on the anime and is not a universal thing), but imo, a human is still a human, so does that matter that much? Like I can go on Twitter or Insta and go searching for a few hundred cosplay girls that either naturally have anime girl bodies or got work done for it, but is it just the literal art styles you’re talking about? I’m gonna stop rambling and let this thread be the thread, as I wanna see this discussion.
What was most interesting to me wasnt the topic itself, but rather the environment it arose in. This topic has been a point of friction among the non-leftisfs for some time and I imagine it'll continue to be so.
It doesn't help that we're more united by virtue of being against something, namely the wokeists; than being for any one particular thing. I've seen others on dissident spaces toss about the term positive vision" and I suppose that's as good enough a phrase as any. One visible conflict is between the Christians and neo-pagans(?). Another between the classical liberals and post-liberals. Still another between the terfs and everyone else. Still more elude my memory right now.
The in-fighting on the wokeist sides is amusing to watch but we're not free from it either and we have much less room for it. They have the capital, organizational robustness, and elite support to have their interfactional spats while still achieving their broad coalitional goals.
Perhaps such fraying is inevitable but I would like to see our coalition, such as it is, not split apart at such an early juncture.