Chilling emails from within Russia’s FSB intelligence service talk about orders “from the very top” for civilians to be taken to concentration camps in a bid to conquer Ukraine.
The extent to which Putin planned to bring Ukraine to heel with extreme violence had it not held out is revealed in emails sent by a source in the FSB to a Russian human rights activist. Under the name Wind of Change, they were sent to Vladimir Osechkin, the founder of Gulagu, which highlights abuses in the country’s prisons. The emails are believed to originally be the work of one FSB officer but it's thought several now contribute to the emails.
The source says that the FSB, with the help of some Russian Military Intelligence, would carry out a “total cleansing” of society and politics in Ukraine. “And after all this, we could install any government in Kiev,” says the source.
The FSB anticipated resistance among the Ukrainian population but was ordered to deal with it ruthlessly in instructions that came “from the very top”.
In the emails, Wind of Change goes into detail about how the measures would be meted out to ordinary Ukrainians who dared to resist the Russian occupiers. This includes a “big terror” that “is being planned for Kherson, which will go through several stages”. The first would be reducing “massive protests down to local skirmishes, and to cause severe injuries to individual protesters”. “As soon as the mass of protests is reduced, the final stage of ‘door-to-door terror’ will begin.
“Here the FSB will play first fiddle and people will be detained in their homes at night during curfew and transferred to Russian territories - concentration camps and worse. “It is assumed that protests will cease completely after such cleansing.”
Russia expert at the Chatham House foreign policy think-tank, Keir Giles, told The Sun Online the documents chime with what we know about Putin’s plans for Ukraine. Giles, the author of Russia's War on Everybody: And What it Means for You, pointed to preparations of mobile crematoria to follow its forces into Ukraine as a signal of Russia's murderous intentions. “If you saw that and they weren’t expecting to fight a war and were expecting to walk in and take over you would ask ‘who was that for?' “So they were planning to execute, murder and dispose of very large numbers of Ukrainian civilians. “That’s what the crematoria were for, that’s what the body bags were for.”
Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky said that there have been over 16,000 forced deportations carried out by Russia.
Ukrainian Colonel-General Oleksandr Syrskyi said that the Wagner mercenaries trying to take Bakhmut are losing “considerable strength” and “very soon” his forces would take advantage of that “opportunity.” The Wagner Group is so desperate for fighters, it is recruiting on Pornhub.
Actually most of the Right supports Ukraine. It's just the far-right that doesn't.
But the only reason the far-right does not, is because they've been turned into useful idiots by Kremlin propaganda, much like how the Left was manipulated into becoming useful idiots for the Soviets throughout the Cold War. It's disappointing to see, but I guess the Left cannot have a monopoly on foolishness.
So yes, 82% of Democrats support Ukraine, while only 56% of Republicans. And yet, 56% is still a majority, isn't it?
And the R/D split in viewing Russia as a threat is stronger on the Republican side than the Democrat side.
My views are very closely aligned to the majority right wing position here. The anti-Ukraine types are the fringe.
Why are you on the side of 82% of Democrats, Biden and CNN? Sincere question.
You've claimed that it's because "demokwacy" and "freedumb", but there is no way you are that naive. You normally talk like a hard-nosed realist.
I get that a lot of Republicans are old Cold Warriors who have heard their whole lives that "Russia bad", even though Russia now is traditionalist and Christian, whereas their country grooms little kids. That is no excuse.
It's not a sincere question. Because you also read that 56% of Republicans support Ukraine and 60% of Republicans say Russia’s military power is broadly a critical threat to America, versus only 45% of Democrats.
So why am I on the same side of 56%-60% of Republicans? Because I'm right wing and share similar views to the American Right.
The better question is, why should I change my policy positions just because the Democrats agree with me? Why should I strive to take the opposite side to Democrats regardless of the issue or the merits? That sounds like the thought process of a retarded, broken, NPC mind that just acts contrarian for its own sake without actually standing for anything itself and having no principles.
Sorry, I'm not an NPC. It's sad that many in this sub are.
I am a hard nosed realist, and because of that I don't accept the delusion that democracy does not exist. Democracy might not be perfect or flawless, but your view that it is all an illusion, is total nonsense. If democracy was just an illusion, then Putin and Xi are the biggest fools on earth for not implementing that illusion in their own countries to gain all its benefits.
That is not why the majority of Republicans support Ukraine. They support Ukraine because they oppose naked aggression, they oppose empire-building, they oppose threats to the US-led international order, they oppose the subjugation of a free people, they support the right of Ukraine to self-determination, they support democracy against autocracy, they support freedom against tyranny.
The only reason for Russia to build an empire is to eventually directly challenge the United States and our allies in a war. Why should be play the fool like Chamberlain did with Hitler and stand idly by while Putin gains strength, only to have to deal with a stronger Putin later on? Stopping him in the 1st instance is the only intelligent move.
The majority of Republicans have also always supported Israel for much the same reasons.
Russia is hardly Christian. It is too broken by generations of communism to lay any claim to legitimate religious strength. The Russian Orthodox Church is just an extension of Putin's regime. And traditionalist? That's no excuse to wage wars of aggression and conquest. There are many countries in the world with more tradition than Russia that ban LGBT rights who somehow manage to not wage wars of conquest and aggression. I don't need Russia for that.
The US is not perfect. We have lots of libtards thanks to Soviet espionage efforts & marxist intellectuals infecting and corrupting our country for generations.
But it is OUR country, and we will purge the evils of Leftism in our own way. We do not need Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin to come conquer the United States and do it for us. And if that was the only option? To deal with rainbow flag bullshit or being subjugated by Russia? Bring on the faggots. I'd rather be rich and have high technology than to become poor trash like Russians living under such terrible leadership that it makes even shitholes like Portland looks like a paradise by comparison.
So no, we don't want what Russia is selling. Russia being against LGBTs only gets you so far. It doesn't mean Russia is entitled to the absolute loyalty and fealty of the American Right. Far from it.
A majority of Republicans wanted to bomb Agrabah.
Generally, you shouldn't. And I don't either, as you have attacked me for many times for supposedly agreeing with Democrats on economic policies. But when I see my government being rabidly anti-Russia, I tend to think that this is the wrong position, as they are pure evil.
I think Russia had all its "benefits" in the 1990s, where oligarchs ruled the roost as they do to this day in the US and the EU. Western democracy = oligarchy. The rich, lobbyists, MNOs, NGOs rule.
Is it total nonsense? I think I have more free speech than in China. But that's because I am not important enough. Anyone who is, gets crushed. Even Hersh said that they had threatened his family and children for his reporting (but strangely enough, he also praised the US because he was able to report on My Lai freesh after Nixon's election). I guess you could say: he'd be dead in China, but to claim "freedom" as some sort of absolute is ridiculous.
Especially Ukraine, which is even less free than Europe, if that were even possible.
Not when it is coming from them. They do not oppose "naked aggression". They just want to advance their corrupt geopolitical interests.
Hah. Yes, they oppose threats to the US empire, and the rules-based order where the US makes the rules and give the orders.
What a weird thing to say. Perhaps projection.The only reason for you to expand NATO is because you want to attack and destroy Russia (further).
But being named 'America' is. Panama, Grenada, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Syria.
You're telling people to side with the power that is pushing BLM and transgenderism everywhere over a country that upholds tradition.
Some Ukrainian refugees coming to Europe actually returned to Ukraine because our cities are such shitholes.
That is not the question. Vladimir Vladimirovich is not trying to conquer your country, he's trying to re-establish dominance in his own back yard. And yes, when the regime hyperventilates about that because it supposedly opposes "wars of aggression" (despite engaging in NUMEROUS such wars itself), that is absurd.
I'm loyal to my country. I'm not loyal to my corrupt, criminal government. Anyone they support I'm immediately skeptical of. But that is not the reason I support Russia. That is because I actually looked into the matter, particularly John Mearsheimer's work. Believe it or not, and considering that you think I am a literal FSB agent, I actually supported the Maidan coup in 2014, cause I had no idea what was going on.
Of course not. But you are aiding the regime and trying to destroy one of the few places where it does not hold power. Do you seriously think that a victory of a regime-controlled Ukraine over regime-opposed Russia will improve the world?
Uniparty shill, drink bleach