well I dont' know what the requirement is then. For Christianity, if you like said the Lord's prayer and meant it you'd be a Christian. And most people say you can't take it back.
And meant it. Up to you. No one else can know. The important part is believing not saying. So quotation has no effect.
There is no other conversion procedure that is supported by Christian texts. IMO. Baptism is holy but not required to be a Christian or get into heaven. And like I said, most theologians who spend their time on stuff like this say that you can't do anything to undo becoming a Christian. There is a minority viewpoint that certain sins are unforgiveable.
And meant it. Up to you. No one else can know. The important part is believing not saying. So quotation has no effect.
That may be the religious idea of who is a Christian, but obviously, no one else is required to believe that. I don't think anyone reciting the Shahada has his ontological state changed, let alone permanently.
well I dont' know what the requirement is then. For Christianity, if you like said the Lord's prayer and meant it you'd be a Christian. And most people say you can't take it back.
I disagree. If I quote the Lord's prayer, does that mean that I'm a Christian?
And meant it. Up to you. No one else can know. The important part is believing not saying. So quotation has no effect.
There is no other conversion procedure that is supported by Christian texts. IMO. Baptism is holy but not required to be a Christian or get into heaven. And like I said, most theologians who spend their time on stuff like this say that you can't do anything to undo becoming a Christian. There is a minority viewpoint that certain sins are unforgiveable.
That may be the religious idea of who is a Christian, but obviously, no one else is required to believe that. I don't think anyone reciting the Shahada has his ontological state changed, let alone permanently.