A single year of Ruski Mir results in some individual walls still standing. Other cities west of Donetsk (Avdiivka for example) look similar, and the famous Bakhmut was going on only since August and so is in a visibly better shape.
But muh 8 years of Ukronazi shelling of Donbas (where Ukraine was holding most of Donbas) and there was literally no trace if it anywhere in Donetsk city center, which was only few km from Ukrainian positions (and still is, as the frontlines barely changed since February 2020 and actually since February 2015). As opposed to soon no trace of western Donbas cities themselves.
Special dedication to u/AntonioOfVenice who claims to be a Christian and yet can't stop living by lies.
There has been plenty of shelling of Donetsk, and you know that full well. They hit a hospital a while back, for which you blamed Stalin. Someone as generally well-informed about war as you knows full well that more damage is done during an active offensive than intermittent shelling, but hey, Poland's gonna Poland.
It's funny that you're not calling into question that the Bandera fans are shelling Donetsk. They repaired it, so it doesn't count! There was a guy on Twitter who claimed that the entire war was a hoax, because some building in Kiev which the Russians or Ukrainian AA hit... has been repaired in the meantime.
Ukraine is not assaulting Donetsk at the moment. It's just shelling it out of spite. Perhaps to show the people that Russia can't protect them.
They didn't repair something that was never broken, and you talked about how being near frontline for 1 year naturally results in a city being completely erased (the Ukrainians are still in Marinka and Avdivka just like in 2021, or 2014). Where are the results of all the Dombing of Bombass in the eastern direction? Just show me the new destruction of any neighbourhood on any date after the Minsk II ceasefire! You have all 7 years of these "8 years". What's the problem?
See the videos. They're not shelling. And not rocketing, beyond HIMARS strikes, blowing up the storages of "Russian humanitarian aid" with huge secondary explosions of the stored so humanitarian ammunition. Besides that they're only dropping grenades from drones on people in uniform. That's what they do.
Whatever anything has to do with "assaulting"? We talk about "shelling of Donbass" and not "assualting". Russia was shelling and rocketing Kharkiv (which the biggest city of Donbas) for over half year. People ("oppressed ethnic Russians") were living down below in the metro while they were smashing the city above them with random rockets, no "assaulting" needed. They only stopped hitting city center after being pushed out of arty range in May. Then they only stopped hitting the northern parts (Saltivka) after being pushed out from altogether in September. "Saltivka" in YT will show you the results of the rocket terror. Some half million people lived in Saltivka district and almost all of them had to flee for their lives.
A single year of Ruski Mir results in some individual walls still standing. Other cities west of Donetsk (Avdiivka for example) look similar, and the famous Bakhmut was going on only since August and so is in a visibly better shape.
But muh 8 years of Ukronazi shelling of Donbas (where Ukraine was holding most of Donbas) and there was literally no trace if it anywhere in Donetsk city center, which was only few km from Ukrainian positions (and still is, as the frontlines barely changed since February 2020 and actually since February 2015). As opposed to soon no trace of western Donbas cities themselves.
Special dedication to u/AntonioOfVenice who claims to be a Christian and yet can't stop living by lies.
Feel feee to show me the effects of this "plenty of shelling of Donetsk". All 8 years of it. Any neighborhood in the city center.
Even now after this year of "active offensive", today, as Ukrainian drones stalk individual little green men in the completely pristine streets of central Donetsk with normal civilian traffic and then demobilize them in surgical strikes. Like here: https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/11cl6o5/russian_soilders_in_donetsk_city_being_hit_by_a/
It's funny that you're not calling into question that the Bandera fans are shelling Donetsk. They repaired it, so it doesn't count! There was a guy on Twitter who claimed that the entire war was a hoax, because some building in Kiev which the Russians or Ukrainian AA hit... has been repaired in the meantime.
Ukraine is not assaulting Donetsk at the moment. It's just shelling it out of spite. Perhaps to show the people that Russia can't protect them.
They didn't repair something that was never broken, and you talked about how being near frontline for 1 year naturally results in a city being completely erased (the Ukrainians are still in Marinka and Avdivka just like in 2021, or 2014). Where are the results of all the Dombing of Bombass in the eastern direction? Just show me the new destruction of any neighbourhood on any date after the Minsk II ceasefire! You have all 7 years of these "8 years". What's the problem?
See the videos. They're not shelling. And not rocketing, beyond HIMARS strikes, blowing up the storages of "Russian humanitarian aid" with huge secondary explosions of the stored so humanitarian ammunition. Besides that they're only dropping grenades from drones on people in uniform. That's what they do.
Whatever anything has to do with "assaulting"? We talk about "shelling of Donbass" and not "assualting". Russia was shelling and rocketing Kharkiv (which the biggest city of Donbas) for over half year. People ("oppressed ethnic Russians") were living down below in the metro while they were smashing the city above them with random rockets, no "assaulting" needed. They only stopped hitting city center after being pushed out of arty range in May. Then they only stopped hitting the northern parts (Saltivka) after being pushed out from altogether in September. "Saltivka" in YT will show you the results of the rocket terror. Some half million people lived in Saltivka district and almost all of them had to flee for their lives.
"Assaulting". What the fuck.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=o2hKpeq9P28
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Mhp-diDpeVo
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lbHHyRQ9M2A