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"'These conflicts always come home': Condoleeza Rice gives right-wing Republicans a history lesson" (far-left outlet praising Mushroom Cloud Condi) (archive.md)
posted 3 years ago by AntonioOfVenice 3 years ago by AntonioOfVenice +17 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

The "rules-based international order" is a system where imperialists in the US make the rules and give the orders.

TRADE OFFER

I get: grossly inflated LNG profits.
You get: a blown up pipeline.

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– dekachin 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

False. The US doesn't give the orders. I know this is difficult for you to comprehend, but the "rules based international order" is a product of the collaborative efforts of the US, EU, and commonwealth countries, plus some other modern democracies like Japan, all coming together and establishing a consensus. No 1 country dictates to the others.

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– deleted 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0
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– dekachin 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

With the understanding that their US-taxpayer-funded defense capabilities can be revoked on a whim if they reach the wrong consensus.

Name 1 case where that has ever happened.

Europe tells America "jump" and the Democrats say "how high?" When a Republican is in office the Euros generally don't ask because they hate republicans with a passion. I doubt they could even stomach being in the same room as Trump.

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– deleted 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0
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– RaisingPhoenix 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Does the destruction of nordstream 2 count, thus plunging Europe into an assured cold winter rather than a very likely one?

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– trump4044 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

The US doesn't give the orders

This is true.....

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

the "rules based international order" is a product of the collaborative efforts of the US, EU, and commonwealth countries, plus some other modern democracies like Japan, all coming together and establishing a consensus.

The consensus of a gang that represents 1/6 of the world's population.

No 1 country dictates to the others.

Just a few weeks ago, you were bragging about how the US was dictating to Turkey by denying F-15 sales if it would block EU membership for Finland and Sweden. And you know full well what happened with the Nord Stream pipeline, but Germany can't object because it is an occupied country and not a sovereign state.

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– dekachin 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

The consensus of a gang that represents 1/6 of the world's population.

Maybe? But they represent the large majority of the world's economic and military power, which is what counts. The large poor populations in some parts of the world have essentially no involvement in world politics.

Just a few weeks ago, you were bragging about how the US was dictating to Turkey by denying F-15 sales if it would block EU membership for Finland and Sweden.

The US has leverage over Turkey specifically by denying it access to our weapons if it acts against our interests, but that is not "dictating" since Turkey still has a choice, a choice it exercised against us quite recently by choosing to buy Russian weapons.

And you know full well what happened with the Nord Stream pipeline

Yes, Russia blew it up on Putin's orders in order to try to create a rift between the EU and US. His plan failed.

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Maybe? But they represent the large majority of the world's economic and military power, which is what counts. The large poor populations in some parts of the world have essentially no involvement in world politics.

So the Western imperialists.

The US has leverage over Turkey specifically by denying it access to our weapons if it acts against our interests, but that is not "dictating" since Turkey still has a choice

LOL! "You have the choice to obey us or be glassed." That is STILL A CHOICE!

Yes, Russia blew it up on Putin's orders in order to try to create a rift between the EU and US. His plan failed.

Always blaming other people for your own crimes. See, you pretend to oppose Biden and then still run interference for his terrorism and act of war.

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