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posted 3 years ago by LoneWolf5597 3 years ago by LoneWolf5597 +59 / -0
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– evilmathmagician2 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

I guess I have to agree that long term subversion is an effective way to destroy things, but if that's what "intelligence" is, I'd rather not react to fabian socialists by making another group that's just as bad.

Unlike leftists, we have to abide by principles, so abandoning those principles because the enemy is not held back by them..that is basically the only way to fail. Part of being a principled actor is being willing to protect those principles even if you are going to lose some battle. (I'm suggesting that "intelligent" warfare is a violation of various principles)

I think it'd be fine to just have open discussion of the ideas at play because I'm confident that the bad ideas are unable to withstand competition. Sure, most people aren't prepared to rationally interact with ideas, but enough are to make a difference. And yeah, there is no free speech platform that exists anymore. But some of the low-level commentary can help others think about new perspectives. So I really have to firmly oppose the idea that people should keep their mouths shut if they can't articulate things well or if they can't bend over backwards far enough. That's just a different demand for purity, and much less reasonable for public discourse.

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– dekachin 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

You don't need to sacrifice your principles to say

"This new dead space is only a little woke so I won't be that upset about it, I'll focus my energy on the bigger offenders I can make a stronger case about"

The sad reality is that some mild race swapping enjoys overwhelming approval, to the point where almost all right wing pundits won't even criticize it because they're so afraid to pick that fight.

It's a fight that needs to be fought, but right now it's a loss. We need to lay the groundwork and win other battles 1st.

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– evilmathmagician2 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Hmm, I think I see what you're saying. It's definitely less of a sacrifice to say that than going full subversion.

Personally, I'd be pleased if people said more than "woke shit, not buying", just to encourage better public discourse. But that's my own priority of wanting my presumed allies to have a firm grasp of their own ideas, along with the flexibility to argue effectively in public (because eventually they're gonna need to defend their ideas).

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– dekachin 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

The Right wins when it convinces others to follow suit.

The Left wins BECAUSE it invests extraordinary efforts to convince, manipulate, and control others through every means necessary.

People in this sub whining about it doesn't move the ball.

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