There was this post by u/GeneralBoobs which was pretty highly upvoted (with no downvotes):
The jew is the leader, the army is literal nazis. If their grifter leader wasn't getting them money and weapons, he'd be dead.
I wonder about you in general, but I also answered him personally:
If he was a traitor to the nation, yes, of course the nationalists would depose him.
Which is very ironic since Putin believed how they would instantly depose Z out of their great love of Russia and desire to surrender. Or that he would just flee, as offered by the West as Russians were driving straight on Kyiv from 2 countries, and which he refused (just like Stalin didn't flee Moscow after some deliberation outside a train waiting for him, and the invaders were then repelled on the outskirts of Moscow just like they did in the suburbs of Kyiv, and a similar story with Izetbegovic in Sarajevo but the city center already, on the other hand Chiang did flee from Nanking and then it fell immediately, resulting in his main army and a lot of civs being captured and slaughtered practically without resistance - Warsaw was kind midway, as the national government fled the city and the country and the situation was hopeless, but the mayor remained to the end and led the defense even as "everyone" wanted to surrender: https://weekly.tvp.pl/63110549/everyone-was-in-favour-of-the-capitulation-of-warsaw-just-not-starzynski and the Germans executed him after the city fell).
Now, what would he need to do for you to not consider him a "grifter"?
I'm also wondering about your strong dislike of, to cite the thread title, "yellow and blue nazis". Ukraine is the only country in the world full of completely open white nationalists who are celebrated and in positions of power, and yet you hate it with a passion, despite this very here place being full of (failed) white nationalists in the countries like America where you are utterly despised by the general population and are being beaten and humiliated instead of being hailed by the crowds as "heroes" in the fight against commies and non-whites while marching in their columns with flags and torches.
Is it an envy from you guys, or just simply contrarianism above all?
The TVP (public TV, nationalist-government controlled) article that I posted has a link to a broken-English article titled "Is honor more important than peace? Would “we have grazed cows for the Germans on the Ural”, had it not been for Józef Beck?". It's about an option of us having been allied with the Nazis against the Bolsheviks and conquering Russia together, in exchange for Danzig and an Autobahn corridor to Prussia (and political-military independence). Quite some people today think we should have done this.
Maybe so.
Weren't the Russians, including but not limited to the former Ukrainian "own people" who decided to attack their own country, using cities "as shield" for the incidents that you whined about? Or was it happening in demilitarized areas, like Paris 1940? I really don't understand your rhetoric here at all.
Similar thing happened to for example Rubizhne earlier, and to Mariinka all year long (in addition to earlier years' attacks). Mariinka looks like WWI frontline cities, it's literally leveled, erased from existence and a moonscape.
And Russia bombed and shelled Russia (Chechnya in particular) extremely heavily with all sorts of weapons many years before they even started any trouble in Ukraine by arming the rebels and sending in the soldiers in unmarked uniforms while lying and denying about everything.
Which is also what they did in Chechnya, because the feds started the intervention (and it was an intervention, across an established border) with unmarked vehicles and soldiers pretending to be Chechens (beard and all). These guys got just slaughtered (well, many got captured, later released as a Chechen gesture or goodwill to Moscow), but hardly anyone even noticed. It was before the main invasion, a mission to do a coup in Grozny, organised by the FSK (KGB befor eit became FSB). Something like in Crimea, or Kabul earlier, only a total disaster. It's little known but really fascinating. Look it up. Moscow also lied to Grozny they're not going to invade if their guys are to be released, similar to their more recent lies in and about Ukraine, including in the run up to February 24 when they were lying how they're not going to invade. They just lie always, all the time. This is why there's the saying "never believe in anything until the Kremlin denied it".
America didn't aid Saddam with chemical weapons, the Egyptians did (having previously done it in Yemen, using Soviet-supplied chemical weapons against the Yemeni royalists). I already told you about it, you forget it was me and you're still peddiling retarded lies like nothing happned.
Yanukovych fled to Moscow with stolen money just because he wanted the stolen money. Notice how he didn't leave to his own supporters, and never showed up in Ukraine ever since. It's because his former supporters, even these who became rebels and collaborators, regard him as a thief and a traitor, and it's THEY who would just murder him if they could. His return under Russian protection (from them) would also demoralise them. They hate him the most.
Poroshenko didn't run "on peace platform" at all (wtf), and your "terrorizing" aka conflict came from both sides, as Ukraine began to resist.
I wish we (Poland) did Nord Stream. But in reality probably Russians did, which is anticlimactic.
I don't know. But there is no justification for repeatedly shelling the city center of Donetsk - even if there had been soldiers there, since they weren't trying to take the city anyway. Or bombing the city center of Lugansk.
Like the Americans. It's just that I expect people to lie when they're about to invade you. Warfare is deception after all.
How cheap. That's just the old alleged Bismarck saying "never believe anything until it is officially denied".
You claimed it, but why would anyone believe you on that score? You actually at one point that the American government cares about human life and people not starving, which is pretty retarded.
Regardless, at the very least Saddam used chemical weapons on his own people and the Americans didn't care. Because crimes against humanity are not crimes against humanity when it's their ally doing it. Same for shooting Russian POWs in the knees.
He could be literally Hitler, and it wouldn't justify him having to flee for his life because the "democratically" elected president feared for his life.
Man, you're normally so knowledgeable and intelligent, and then you spout crap like this, which makes you sound more ridiculous than the average fentanyl-smoking hobo in San Francisco.
No, not like the Americans. For example the Americans thruthfully saying about the Russian upcoming invasion which the Russians were lying saying the American lying about that, doubling down on their lies. Which is absolutely typical. Just like they've been assuring Dudayev they're not going to invade all the way until they did. That's called being given "the word of a Russian officer."
The Americans no longer even had chemical weapons themselves. Which is why a proportional retaliation strike in the event of a chemical attack has to be nuclear. It's like they have no flamethrowers anymore, and instead use armored bulldozers tthe same job. The Iraqis used Soviet aircraft and Soviet design chemical bombs for the job. The chemical precursor came from all over the world but mostly from Singapore and the UAE, the latter long being a real world Wakanda / Cobra Island crrossver.
Andnyesz the American governmtnaverter the world starvation, also through organising the export of Ukrainian grain through Poland which helped to break the Russian blockade which would starve millions in the shithole countried and set whole regions on fire of rebellions and wars for food.
But I told you he fled for his money, which he didn't split with anyone (inclduding not with his own former supporters, who now hate him), not "for his life". You know, this "grifting" thing? Why are you, and that's plural you, stanning so hard for someone that literally everyone in country hates?
It's like the story of this weirdo "governor of Kherson" (where the billboards would say "Russia is here forever", there was apparently the end of history indeed), who died in a car crash after fleeing from the city in a car (I don't know what happened with this "my tank" of his where he promised to conquer the entire world for Russia with it). The dude was some kind of New Age cultist, but the Russian Orthodox Church (an organization set up by Stalin) declared him, a literal pagan apostate, a saint, because why not.
It was indeed Mariupol, and they deliberately targeted "their own" civilians: https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-un-idUKKBN0KZ26J20150126
An ironic thing js that for years, the attack was remembered annually at the Mariupol Theater Square. Ironic because it was the same place when in 2022 a Russian plane bombed a well known bomb shelter and humanitarian aid / evac point with a characteristic red roof and huge marks of CHILDREN written on both sides of it.
But you see they weren't doing that, even when there were huge military parades there (in artillery range). They were doing fuck all, the biggest thing going on since 2015 and the second ceasefire was when the K2 artillery group (still working in the same area today) fucked up some forward operating bases during a flare up in like 2017. Normally no arty was even allowed at the line of contact due to the ceasefire rules.
And the only one town destroyed after September 2014 was Debaltseve, when the Russian side abolished Minsk I just to attack it with a big offensive involving Russian regulars (the first appearance of formations of Asian soldiers, in the form of Buryat tankists who became known as "Donbas Indians"). On the same day when the declared Minsk I over they also rocketed Mariupol randomly (or was it Kramatorsk, if I leave this tab to check anything my dumb phone will reset everything).
The "bombing" you mentioned was a volley of unguided rockets. They were aimed at the separatist HQ in support of a besieged Luhansk border guard HQ nearby but only 1 rocket hit and the rest exploded in a park in behind it where unfortunately were some random people walking by. These rockets were and are the main armaments of the Su-24s, the Soviets didn't make them for accuracy. Now it's your time to blame "using city as shield" I guess as they barricaded themselves (barricades outside, sandbags in windows) in the city hall that was in the city center instead of a treehouse in a forest or whatever you think it should work like.
Brb work