A long history of Mostly Peaceful Protests
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Among the craziest wiki articles I’ve ever found. There’s a lot there:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Draft_Riots_of_1863
And at least for me, this is why I dont get the likes of Razor using it as an example of "Lincoln bad". When you have plenty of better examples of Lincoln being a tyrant, perhaps dont use the one where sending in the Army to crush it was probably the best possible response due to the level of violence involved.
TBH, the more nuanced conversation around American history isn’t really my strong suit, who’s Razor in this case?
Ah, I thought you would have been familiar. It is a youtuber with the handle known as Razorfist. Metalhead and also very libertarian conservative minded. I specifically was referencing a recent video he did laying out his personal case on Lincoln being a tyrant and dictator, and the New York Draft Riots was one of the instances he used. Specifically saying that Lincoln "murdered civilians" by using the US Army, many of whom had been pulled from the front just having fought Gettysburg.
Like I said. Fairly weak argument considering just how out of control and deadly the riots were.
Ah interesting thanks, I had never actually heard of that guy.
I’ve heard the “tyrant” argument - on its face it makes some good points, but like you point out, with context much of the strength of the argument is eroded (imo atleast). Wartime by definition involves a change of societal norms/laws sometimes (hence “War Measures Acts” being enacted by every country at war since legal systems were invented, seemingly, lol).
Even that article specifically with regards to sending military forces to deal with civilians has a lot of important context: the state police had been deployed to Gettysburg (leaving only the metropolitan police who were totally and immediately overwhelmed), and the “soldiers” deployed were members of the 1st Battalion Invalid Corps, troops who had been disabled or injured on the front lines but still wished to/could serve in some capacity
Cheers thanks for the link to the guy though, does he have any videos you’d recommend?