Anything said by that clown Seymour Hersh instantly makes it less credible. He claims everything he's saying is from a single anonymous source. Riiiight. Reminds me of the Trump "pee tapes".
He's an atheistic jew anti-American propagandist. The libs loved him when he published propaganda against the US during the Vietnam War, because they were on the same side. Later, when he started attacking Obama, the Left turned against him and he is universally recognized as a conspiratorial crank. In 2018, Hersh told an interviewer, "I don't necessarily buy the story that Bin Laden was responsible for 9/11." Hersh later lied about Syria not using chemical weapons: Bellingcat accused Hersh of sloppy journalism: "Hersh based his case on a tiny number of anonymous sources, presented no other evidence to support his case, and ignored or dismissed evidence that countered the alternative narrative he was trying to build." He's an atheistic jew far left propagandist.
9/11 being an "inside job" is completely retarded and makes no sense on any level. The evidence offered in support - shit like "jet fuel can't melt steel beams" & "omg those are demolition squibs!" - is laughably wrong on its face and would only fool a complete idiot.
By contrast, the idea that Russia blew up its own pipeline is eminently reasonable, which is why I believe it is by far the most likely:
Putin, as a career KGB operative, LOVES doing shady espionage shit like false flag attacks. There is a long history of him doing so, most famously blowing up his own people in the apartment bombings so he could blame it on muslims as a pretext to invade/escalate against Chechnya. His agents famously got caught in Ryazan. He'd done something like this before: Two explosions on a gas pipeline in North Ossetia in January 2006, which were caused by remote-controlled military-grade charges. The explosions halted Russian gas supply to Georgia after the country had started seeking NATO membership.
Putin is obsessed with the manipulation and control of the Russian people. He devotes enormous resources to it. Blowing up the pipeline as a false flag gave Putin a propaganda weapon to cast Russia as being under attack by foreign powers. It is perfectly tailored to shore up domestic war support.
The pipeline was already inoperative. Putin had every reason to believe that sanctions would mean that Germany would not resume purchases indefinitely, rendering the pipeline worthless anyway. Germany and other countries had already stockpiled natural gas in August and September, which was clearly done to enable a total long term withdrawal from Russian supplies. The pipeline was blown up in late September soon after this had become clear. Might as well blow it up and extract what propaganda value out of it he could. Conversely, it would make no sense for the US/UK to blow up a pipeline after Germany and others had already taken steps to eliminate dependency on it and it was worthless.
Putin may have hoped blowing them up would cause a panic/shock in natural gas markets. "On 27 September 2022, European gas prices jumped 12 percent after news spread of the damaged pipelines".
Putin has a long history of being over-promised and under-delivered by his subordinates. To us outsiders it might seem like blowing up the pipeline is not likely to help Russia much, but Putin's perception would be very different as his FSB executives pitched him on it. Putin may have believed that blowing it up would drive a wedge between Germany and the US/UK. This is laughable to Westerners, but Putin living in his bubble believes a lot of stupid shit.
Biden is a coward and consistently refuses to support even trivial escalations, such as by refusing to supply ATACMS HIMARS missiles to Ukraine because they might use those missiles to strike targets in Russia. Biden opposed the Bin Laden raid. Biden cucked out of Afghanistan. Biden is the last guy who would do something bold and risky and escalatory like try to secretly blow up a pipeline.
"European security officials observed Russian Navy support ships nearby where the leaks later occurred on 26 and 27 September. One week prior, Russian submarines were also observed nearby."
He's literally a senile puppet, not in control of anything.
Someone linked the plane analysis down the thread, but I don't think actually reading a thread before shitposting is in your capability if you think Russia would blow up it's own fucking pipeline for no reason.
I'm no "jet fuel can't melt steel beams" type either, but believing one of those bullshit stories is legit and the other isn't is pure fucking stupid.
Equally retarded is believing that Russia loves false flags, but thinking the US wouldn't do them - declassified operation Northwoods. CIA planned a false flag op to start war with Cuba. Kennedy shut it down. The US doing false flags is no less likely than Russia - the US federal government is not some kind of "good guy".
All these giant governments are criminal organizations.
Someone linked the plane analysis down the thread, but I don't think actually reading a thread before shitposting is in your capability if you think Russia would blow up it's own fucking pipeline for no reason.
I disagree with him, but I'm glad he made the argument, which is why I did upvote him. It's boring when everyone agrees on a given subject.
All these giant governments are criminal organizations.
And this is the most important point.
Same for politicians.
A politician isn't 'a good guy' simply because he agrees with you, or says he agrees with you. You need to hold them accountable.
Funny how it's always a 'conspiracy theory' when you assign responsibility to the US.
The US blowing up its own towers? CONSPIRACY THEORY.
Russia NOT blowing up its own pipelines? CONSPIRACY THEORY.
Anything said by that clown Seymour Hersh instantly makes it less credible. He claims everything he's saying is from a single anonymous source. Riiiight. Reminds me of the Trump "pee tapes".
He's an atheistic jew anti-American propagandist. The libs loved him when he published propaganda against the US during the Vietnam War, because they were on the same side. Later, when he started attacking Obama, the Left turned against him and he is universally recognized as a conspiratorial crank. In 2018, Hersh told an interviewer, "I don't necessarily buy the story that Bin Laden was responsible for 9/11." Hersh later lied about Syria not using chemical weapons: Bellingcat accused Hersh of sloppy journalism: "Hersh based his case on a tiny number of anonymous sources, presented no other evidence to support his case, and ignored or dismissed evidence that countered the alternative narrative he was trying to build." He's an atheistic jew far left propagandist.
9/11 being an "inside job" is completely retarded and makes no sense on any level. The evidence offered in support - shit like "jet fuel can't melt steel beams" & "omg those are demolition squibs!" - is laughably wrong on its face and would only fool a complete idiot.
By contrast, the idea that Russia blew up its own pipeline is eminently reasonable, which is why I believe it is by far the most likely:
Putin, as a career KGB operative, LOVES doing shady espionage shit like false flag attacks. There is a long history of him doing so, most famously blowing up his own people in the apartment bombings so he could blame it on muslims as a pretext to invade/escalate against Chechnya. His agents famously got caught in Ryazan. He'd done something like this before: Two explosions on a gas pipeline in North Ossetia in January 2006, which were caused by remote-controlled military-grade charges. The explosions halted Russian gas supply to Georgia after the country had started seeking NATO membership.
Putin is obsessed with the manipulation and control of the Russian people. He devotes enormous resources to it. Blowing up the pipeline as a false flag gave Putin a propaganda weapon to cast Russia as being under attack by foreign powers. It is perfectly tailored to shore up domestic war support.
The pipeline was already inoperative. Putin had every reason to believe that sanctions would mean that Germany would not resume purchases indefinitely, rendering the pipeline worthless anyway. Germany and other countries had already stockpiled natural gas in August and September, which was clearly done to enable a total long term withdrawal from Russian supplies. The pipeline was blown up in late September soon after this had become clear. Might as well blow it up and extract what propaganda value out of it he could. Conversely, it would make no sense for the US/UK to blow up a pipeline after Germany and others had already taken steps to eliminate dependency on it and it was worthless.
Putin may have hoped blowing them up would cause a panic/shock in natural gas markets. "On 27 September 2022, European gas prices jumped 12 percent after news spread of the damaged pipelines".
Putin has a long history of being over-promised and under-delivered by his subordinates. To us outsiders it might seem like blowing up the pipeline is not likely to help Russia much, but Putin's perception would be very different as his FSB executives pitched him on it. Putin may have believed that blowing it up would drive a wedge between Germany and the US/UK. This is laughable to Westerners, but Putin living in his bubble believes a lot of stupid shit.
Biden is a coward and consistently refuses to support even trivial escalations, such as by refusing to supply ATACMS HIMARS missiles to Ukraine because they might use those missiles to strike targets in Russia. Biden opposed the Bin Laden raid. Biden cucked out of Afghanistan. Biden is the last guy who would do something bold and risky and escalatory like try to secretly blow up a pipeline.
"European security officials observed Russian Navy support ships nearby where the leaks later occurred on 26 and 27 September. One week prior, Russian submarines were also observed nearby."
He's literally a senile puppet, not in control of anything.
Someone linked the plane analysis down the thread, but I don't think actually reading a thread before shitposting is in your capability if you think Russia would blow up it's own fucking pipeline for no reason.
I'm no "jet fuel can't melt steel beams" type either, but believing one of those bullshit stories is legit and the other isn't is pure fucking stupid.
Equally retarded is believing that Russia loves false flags, but thinking the US wouldn't do them - declassified operation Northwoods. CIA planned a false flag op to start war with Cuba. Kennedy shut it down. The US doing false flags is no less likely than Russia - the US federal government is not some kind of "good guy".
All these giant governments are criminal organizations.
I disagree with him, but I'm glad he made the argument, which is why I did upvote him. It's boring when everyone agrees on a given subject.
And this is the most important point.
Same for politicians.
A politician isn't 'a good guy' simply because he agrees with you, or says he agrees with you. You need to hold them accountable.
Only for people who thrive on arguing for the sake of it.