What I don’t understand is why “normies” just rolled over and accepted that
Normies were not consulted. I'm pretty sure most will find it bizarre. The leftist NPC types, on the other hand, will gladly sacrifice their children on the altar of a virtue-signal.
Frankly, normies may be in the right - they don't care about what happens, because they don't have an effect on it anyway. All we do is bitch online, with zero effect. Any one of us could be a Libs of Tik Tok or a Rufo. Literally a 26-year-old Jewish woman in Brooklyn who changed public perceptions by revealing stuff. I'm sure everyone who knew her hates her for doing that. What's my excuse? Not sure.
People I know irl are like that. I truly don’t understand.
I have a different experience. More like, whenever you tell someone something that's happening, they look at you as if you're the crazy one - because obviously, only a sick mind could make up something like that.
I guess that's a strategy. Do stuff that is so outlandish that people won't believe it.
Though honestly, if you’re choosing to go to these things specifically, are you really straight..? 🤔
I know one thing: if you like looking at degenerate, fat perverts in women's clothing, you most certainly aren't homosexual.
Speak for yourself man. I actually go out and preach my psychomadness and participate in small town activism. Managed to pull at least a few long time friends out of the purity spiral of Leftism back to just the "well we should be nice and help people but that's too much" low level libshit. A nothingburger of useless on the societal scale, but its the best most can accomplish without a lucky life situation.
Which, if everyone in these types of forums went out and did might actually reach societal scale. But instead many rather just cut off everyone who minorly disagrees with their "10 years of red pilling got me here, why don't you instantly agree with me" position or rant about hating Jews/Women so loudly no one wants to be associated with you.
Managed to pull at least a few long time friends out of the purity spiral of Leftism back to just the "well we should be nice and help people but that's too much" low level libshit. A nothingburger of useless on the societal scale
Anything that makes a change in the real world is a big win as far as I'm concerned.
Which, if everyone in these types of forums went out and did might actually reach societal scale. But instead many rather just cut off everyone who minorly disagrees with their "10 years of red pilling got me here, why don't you instantly agree with me" position or rant about hating Jews/Women so loudly no one wants to be associated with you.
Yes, it is a huge problem when you are too far from the NPC hivemind. And it's applicable even when you're not interested in hating on Jews and women. If you are too far removed from someone's views, then you not only do not persuade, you probably even push them in the wrong direction.
You also have to time it right. I've had people make stupid comments about 'Putin', and I managed to not chimp-out by the ridiculousness of it, in fact, completely ignore it. The thing is, if any mention of a given thing sets you off, people will think you're some sort of fanatic. Even if you are, you should strive not to make the appearance.
It helps that most people are reasonable, as much as this is obscured by the crusty overlay of NPC nonsense pushed by the media. This is because, as Conquest said, everyone is conservative about what he knows. Except for a few fame-hungry gold-diggers, people don't want their kid to slice off his balls and become a troon. They don't want to die in a nuclear holocaust. They don't want to reduce their standard of living to 0 for some minimal impact on the climate.
If you are too far removed from someone's views, then you not only do not persuade, you probably even push them in the wrong direction.
Even if you are removed, having the ability to understand their position well enough to emulate being far closer to it while in conversation is the biggest key.
As such, like I often preach to our Impy boy, I strive to have a deep understanding of not just feminist literature but the psychology and emotions that bring someone to that position, and even just women in general. Which, given my ideological crusade is mostly anti-feminist and misogynistic, puts me in the strongest place to reach people who believe such and slowly pull them closer to my side.
And once you are in their circle as "someone who gets it" and "likeable, maybe attractive even" then you can get away with convincing them of all sorts of things antithetical to their ideological bend. Its why "Right Wing Grifters" are such a big problem that I chimp out about constantly, because I can see that game being played in action on people who can't fathom someone like Rekeita or Peterson or Candace Owens might be playing them towards a long term division*.
Even if you are removed, having the ability to understand their position well enough to emulate being far closer to it while in conversation is the biggest key.
Yes, that is almost impossible when you are far removed. Though you don't even need to pretend to believe it. You can just ask a question that makes them think just a bit more.
I strive to have a deep understanding of not just feminist literature but the psychology and emotions that bring someone to that position
It certainly isn't feminist literature. Most women who call themselves feminists are just dupes. "Yeah, I like feminism because I want to be paid the same as a man." Imp would respond: "Yeah, you GENOCIDE PUSHING terrorist, that is what you WANT us to think! More feminine lies!" And the dupe would be like "? What are you on about?"
Which, given my ideological crusade is mostly anti-feminist and misogynistic
Other than wanting women to fulfill traditional roles, how are you 'misogynistic'?
And once you are in their circle as "someone who gets it" and "likeable, maybe attractive even" then you can get away with convincing them of all sorts of things antithetical to their ideological bend.
People underestimate how key being liked is to persuasion. Also how much you can accomplish if you can get someone to laugh. Unfortunately, a lot of the folks on the far-right are some of the most humorless people around, who think that "OY VEY IT'S ANUDDA SHOAH SIX GORILLION" is the height of comedy.
I can see that game being played in action on people who can't fathom someone like Rekeita or Peterson or Candace Owens might be playing them towards a long term goal.
Normies were not consulted. I'm pretty sure most will find it bizarre. The leftist NPC types, on the other hand, will gladly sacrifice their children on the altar of a virtue-signal.
Frankly, normies may be in the right - they don't care about what happens, because they don't have an effect on it anyway. All we do is bitch online, with zero effect. Any one of us could be a Libs of Tik Tok or a Rufo. Literally a 26-year-old Jewish woman in Brooklyn who changed public perceptions by revealing stuff. I'm sure everyone who knew her hates her for doing that. What's my excuse? Not sure.
I have a different experience. More like, whenever you tell someone something that's happening, they look at you as if you're the crazy one - because obviously, only a sick mind could make up something like that.
I guess that's a strategy. Do stuff that is so outlandish that people won't believe it.
I know one thing: if you like looking at degenerate, fat perverts in women's clothing, you most certainly aren't homosexual.
Speak for yourself man. I actually go out and preach my psychomadness and participate in small town activism. Managed to pull at least a few long time friends out of the purity spiral of Leftism back to just the "well we should be nice and help people but that's too much" low level libshit. A nothingburger of useless on the societal scale, but its the best most can accomplish without a lucky life situation.
Which, if everyone in these types of forums went out and did might actually reach societal scale. But instead many rather just cut off everyone who minorly disagrees with their "10 years of red pilling got me here, why don't you instantly agree with me" position or rant about hating Jews/Women so loudly no one wants to be associated with you.
Anything that makes a change in the real world is a big win as far as I'm concerned.
Yes, it is a huge problem when you are too far from the NPC hivemind. And it's applicable even when you're not interested in hating on Jews and women. If you are too far removed from someone's views, then you not only do not persuade, you probably even push them in the wrong direction.
You also have to time it right. I've had people make stupid comments about 'Putin', and I managed to not chimp-out by the ridiculousness of it, in fact, completely ignore it. The thing is, if any mention of a given thing sets you off, people will think you're some sort of fanatic. Even if you are, you should strive not to make the appearance.
It helps that most people are reasonable, as much as this is obscured by the crusty overlay of NPC nonsense pushed by the media. This is because, as Conquest said, everyone is conservative about what he knows. Except for a few fame-hungry gold-diggers, people don't want their kid to slice off his balls and become a troon. They don't want to die in a nuclear holocaust. They don't want to reduce their standard of living to 0 for some minimal impact on the climate.
Even if you are removed, having the ability to understand their position well enough to emulate being far closer to it while in conversation is the biggest key.
As such, like I often preach to our Impy boy, I strive to have a deep understanding of not just feminist literature but the psychology and emotions that bring someone to that position, and even just women in general. Which, given my ideological crusade is mostly anti-feminist and misogynistic, puts me in the strongest place to reach people who believe such and slowly pull them closer to my side.
And once you are in their circle as "someone who gets it" and "likeable, maybe attractive even" then you can get away with convincing them of all sorts of things antithetical to their ideological bend. Its why "Right Wing Grifters" are such a big problem that I chimp out about constantly, because I can see that game being played in action on people who can't fathom someone like Rekeita or Peterson or Candace Owens might be playing them towards a long term division*.
Yes, that is almost impossible when you are far removed. Though you don't even need to pretend to believe it. You can just ask a question that makes them think just a bit more.
It certainly isn't feminist literature. Most women who call themselves feminists are just dupes. "Yeah, I like feminism because I want to be paid the same as a man." Imp would respond: "Yeah, you GENOCIDE PUSHING terrorist, that is what you WANT us to think! More feminine lies!" And the dupe would be like "? What are you on about?"
Other than wanting women to fulfill traditional roles, how are you 'misogynistic'?
People underestimate how key being liked is to persuasion. Also how much you can accomplish if you can get someone to laugh. Unfortunately, a lot of the folks on the far-right are some of the most humorless people around, who think that "OY VEY IT'S ANUDDA SHOAH SIX GORILLION" is the height of comedy.
Yeah, I doubt any long term goal.