The right do undermine themselves because I know if I stood up there and said we should start locking up our enemies, they'd say I'm a Nazi and MAH FREEDOM OF SPEECH, then elect some castrated pansy faggot boy and complain how nothing changes. It's why I've given up on politics. Until we have a Julius Caesar in place to force the kind of society the right-wing wants with an army to kill anyone who disagrees, anything we want to promote is worthless. The founding fathers didn't fix the problems facing them using words. They used guns BY ACTUALLY SHOOTING THEIR GUNS AT THEIR ENEMIES and not just going to the range and taking pictures with beer girls.
You are right about a lot of right-wingers living in the 1700s. Whenever I hear a lot of people discuss Traditional American values/beliefs, it's an ideal that could have only been realized then, at that time.
I've always been a fan of Benjamin Franklin's saying:
Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters. - Benjamin Franklin
Why do I like this saying so much? Because he admits that only people with a shared value system can live in this hypothetical "free" society. Why? Because if everyone has the same value-system (virtuous people), then no one would use their freedom to do anything anyone else thought was bad (they wouldn't use freedom to be corrupt or vicious), since they were all virtuous people. So what's the conclusion from this? Freedom in itself is worthless because if you are all good people and thus will not use your freedom to do anything bad, then you have no need of freedom anyway because you'd never have used your freedom to do anything anyone else didn't want you to do. Without even realizing it Benjamin Franklin is actually advocating total authoritarianism under the same objective moral value system.
The right do undermine themselves because I know if I stood up there and said we should start locking up our enemies, they'd say I'm a Nazi and MAH FREEDOM OF SPEECH, then elect some castrated pansy faggot boy and complain how nothing changes. It's why I've given up on politics. Until we have a Julius Caesar in place to force the kind of society the right-wing wants with an army to kill anyone who disagrees, anything we want to promote is worthless. The founding fathers didn't fix the problems facing them using words. They used guns BY ACTUALLY SHOOTING THEIR GUNS AT THEIR ENEMIES and not just going to the range and taking pictures with beer girls.
You are right about a lot of right-wingers living in the 1700s. Whenever I hear a lot of people discuss Traditional American values/beliefs, it's an ideal that could have only been realized then, at that time.
I've always been a fan of Benjamin Franklin's saying:
Why do I like this saying so much? Because he admits that only people with a shared value system can live in this hypothetical "free" society. Why? Because if everyone has the same value-system (virtuous people), then no one would use their freedom to do anything anyone else thought was bad (they wouldn't use freedom to be corrupt or vicious), since they were all virtuous people. So what's the conclusion from this? Freedom in itself is worthless because if you are all good people and thus will not use your freedom to do anything bad, then you have no need of freedom anyway because you'd never have used your freedom to do anything anyone else didn't want you to do. Without even realizing it Benjamin Franklin is actually advocating total authoritarianism under the same objective moral value system.