Alright may as well talk about it, the recent Archcast brought this to light but everything from trans pushes to how people apply social media to the real world this is something that's been on my mind a lot.
We should have in our heads a clear distinction between what is fiction and what is reality. Reality is the empirical, from our senses, experience and anaylsis of the environment. Fiction is the opposite, it be based on aspects of reality but isn't required and should have little to no consequences on reality.
We've always had issues with the two with superstitions and mysticism but usually they were either because of lack of knowledge or to remember real world dangers (a tale of a monster attacking if you build there is a warning tsunamis hit this area)
But now it's gone nuts. We have a media encouraging delusions on sex, right and left saying drawings are immoral yet the left say that teaching kids about sex positions is fine and that a woman can beat up a man twice her size.
If I were to pin point when the acceleration pedal was pushed down on this, I'd say it's when normies hit the Internet. They were used to every communication being with an actual person that when they got on the Internet, they didn't understand the etiquette that you can be whatever you want here. They have never caught onto that distinction and it's why we see so many pushes to remove anonymity.
Then there's the lolicon 'debate', it's more a canary in the coal mine for us all than a hill not to die on. Look at everything that happened to it first, payment processors refusing service, refusal to allow content despite meeting tos, criminalisation in some countries of a drawing. This started with fictional content but has bled so easily into speech laws, the fictional was the thin edge of the wedge to then target the real.
I'll stop here to not go too long tldr; The West at large has lost a lot of it's ability to tell fiction from reality and it's led to the mass adoptions of delusions along with using fictional content to target the real world
It is no different from how it used to be with faggotry, troonery, etc. Be perverted all you want in private, expect social or stronger sanction when you try to bring it public. The fact that there isnt any sanction against public faggotry is part of why everything is so messed up.
You are on the wrong track with be "bbut its fiction" whine and pretty much every other comparison "but this (bad thing) is ok, why isnt cartoon kids gettin railed ok?".
Because its the idea ok kids getting railed. Its gross. Some people find it gross enough to act against. Almost nobody finds it worth degending.
I'd argue that is a false equivalency, with homosexuality that was always a real world thing, as is pedophilia. It can be argued since child brides were a thing back when we only lived to 30, that pedophiles are a regressive mindset that did not change with the times similar to flat earthers and believing that a touch from a king can cure you of a sickness caused by potatoes.
You can say you don't like it, you can find it disgusting and degenerate but do not give a green light to censorship. Once it was allowed in one case of fiction, no actual children were abused to make loli content compared to the fashion industry, the parties in power so an opportunity to start pushing the wedge in to expand it to more content like speech, like art, like even opinions.
It's not a matter of 'should it be censored' but ' are you willing to sacrifice your own freedoms to stop fictional content you don't consume?'
I don't understand what your point is. Do you want cartoon child porn on billboards at the center of town? If not then you are also for "censorship". Do you expect to be able to post pictures of cartoon child porn and not get banned or worse?
And as for the "powers that be" they don't need our permission, they do whatever they hell they want. They are already censoring ideas and art and opinions through social and economic violence.
What "freedoms" am I giving up when I say cartoon child porn shouldn't be allowed on public forums?
This is all going to be a moot discussion anyway because art AI is almost so good that it can produce as much cartoon child porn as any pervert could possibly desire in the privacy of his own home.
I did make the distinction of FICTIONAL content such as drawings, I don't have a clothing brand and Kim Kardashin to get away with that?
And as I was saying before, it's the thin edge of the wedge, it's very easy to get upset or disgusted with loli content, completely understable for both the right and left. That is then used by people exploiting those emotions to go 'this content is disgusting and the people that view it for their sick enjoyment will eventually go even further for their kicks! Tell you what, you leave this to us and we'll make sure you never see it."
And then you end up in a Canada situation, it's VERY easy to not see loli content. The creators themselves tag it as such, all you need to do on most if not all platforms is just mark 'i don't want to see this content' and BOOM, no loli content. If all it takes is a little personal action to stop the content be seen by you or your family/children, why would you willing give governments and companies more control instead?
I still don't understand what your point is.
Your slippery slope argument has happened and is currently happening for any number of right-leaning positions. On various platforms you will get warned/suspended/banned. Jewish holocaust questioning, saying gays are much more likely to be pedophiles, saying blacks have lower iq and poor impulse control compared to other ethnic groups, having the opinion that trannies are disgusting, saying women shouldn't be allowed to hold leadership positions or vote etc. Do you think not saying anything against cartoon child porn will magically make these other ideas allowed to be publicly discussed?
I also reject your premise that I should be the one to declare I don't want to see cartoon child porn. The cartoon child porn enthusiast needs to be the one who makes the effort to not put it in front of me.