Thanks for the vid, I've always been suspicious of "oh, yeah, everything before Christianity was gay" but this guy did a ton a heavy lifting to actually destroy it.
Mfw Achilles and Patroclus were the subjects of the first bullshit slash fanfiction with no actual grounding in the source material, and basically a complete inversion of what happened with Sailors Uranus & Neptune - being a pair of cousins & good friends who were turned into lovers to appease modern sensibilities rather than the other way around.
Achilles and Patroclus were basically battle buddies in the Iliad, hence their close brotherly connection and the reason Achilles goes berserk when Patroclus dies. The people today that claim they were lovers are simply projecting as per usual. These type of people have clearly never experienced an actual brotherly connection (or even friendship) with someone so all they can think of is "tHeY mUsT hAvE bEeN GaY!" This also reminds me that they also pulled these wacky reasonings with Frodo and Sam in LOTR.
Thanks for the vid, I've always been suspicious of "oh, yeah, everything before Christianity was gay" but this guy did a ton a heavy lifting to actually destroy it.
I found that quote fantastic. Seeing the Greeks themselves attribute homosexual degeneracy to having been sexual abused as children was cathartic.
Exactly the idea of two adult men being gay together as the correct way is totally modern. The traditional way was child rape.
Mfw Achilles and Patroclus were the subjects of the first bullshit slash fanfiction with no actual grounding in the source material, and basically a complete inversion of what happened with Sailors Uranus & Neptune - being a pair of cousins & good friends who were turned into lovers to appease modern sensibilities rather than the other way around.
Achilles and Patroclus were basically battle buddies in the Iliad, hence their close brotherly connection and the reason Achilles goes berserk when Patroclus dies. The people today that claim they were lovers are simply projecting as per usual. These type of people have clearly never experienced an actual brotherly connection (or even friendship) with someone so all they can think of is "tHeY mUsT hAvE bEeN GaY!" This also reminds me that they also pulled these wacky reasonings with Frodo and Sam in LOTR.
I loved the saying from a fellow historian, 'the Greeks weren't gay in the same way they weren't Democrats or Republicans.'
i always just thought sodomy was only excepted in their societies during a collapse
This guy took what I said, did the research and proved it to be reality. That's how you do it.