We Imp-posting tonight, boys! Unironically. Let's go.
Here's some comments from that cancer thread. Brackets indicate editorialization and/or my impressions, everything else is verbatim. Also, sorry if it's a little chaotic or inconsistent, it's a bit stream of consciousness. Also, alcohol.
I do think that there are issues that uniquely affect men that deserve focused attention [but the answer is of course feminism.]
I worry that it’s all too easy for incel-types to masquerade as advocating for “men’s mental health” or “men’s issues” or by using similar language. [Uh, yeah, I didn't even have to edit this one at all. Wouldn't want to advocate for men or anything, yikes.]
[Not pro-whamen enough] due to under-moderation.
The sub went private for the holidays because the mods need a break.... [hahahaha]
There's too many [people advocating for men] mixed in in the threads...they lack understanding about gender studies to push forward the conversation... [Again, I can't even add anything. Literally citing 'gender studies'...just when you think it can't get stupider.]
I don't think there's a productive space for men to talk about gender on Reddit currently. [For once, we agree.]
But I think if all the concept you have of gender comes from mainstream liberal feminism, the MRM narrative becomes waaay to seductive. [Fuck. Like, seriously, I was planning to add more commentary, but it all stands on its own as 'don't let men think for themselves or advocate for themselves. Anything outside of feminism is heretical.' Can't do much with this shit aside from rage. It's a cult, there's no point trying to logic it.]
And since MRAs are very much always around, posting, commenting, it ends up being too much of a risk [of men deciding to be men. It's not worth exposing these men to anything but our chosen doctrine.]
Menslib has become a stepping stone to radicalization. [...]
It is definitely one of the better male issues-centric subs, but it's not perfect. The mods do a pretty good job though. [...You're not making this easy. Or you're making it too easy, depending on perspective. I love the recurring focus on it being good or bad depending on if the mods can "curate" things enough.]
The “issues uniquely affecting men” are pretty much always the patriarchy. Feminism is for everyone. [No, fuck you, bitches.]
Through the liberation of women, all of society can be emancipated from the patriarchy. [You. Are. In. A. Fucking. Cult.]
As a mother of boys and wife to a man who struggles with masculinity issues [Remove thyself, in Minecraft.]
Alright. That was sort of cathartic, mostly depressing. That thread was something, and not for the faint of heart. That last one I quoted...ooooooof. Actually think about it...can you imagine being married to that, or having that as your mother and prime role model? Sad part is, she probably actually thinks she's a good person, too. But, oh my god, it was subtle, but probably more rage-inducing than the rest. I feel bad for the rest of her family.
Also, I still hold that Imp isn't right about women as a collective conspirator but, holy shit, fuck the radical feminists, and fuck the current "feminine" influence on society. It's a pox, and I can certainly understand how someone could reach the point where they blame all women.
We Imp-posting tonight, boys! Unironically. Let's go.
Here's some comments from that cancer thread. Brackets indicate editorialization and/or my impressions, everything else is verbatim. Also, sorry if it's a little chaotic or inconsistent, it's a bit stream of consciousness. Also, alcohol.
I do think that there are issues that uniquely affect men that deserve focused attention [but the answer is of course feminism.]
I worry that it’s all too easy for incel-types to masquerade as advocating for “men’s mental health” or “men’s issues” or by using similar language. [Uh, yeah, I didn't even have to edit this one at all. Wouldn't want to advocate for men or anything, yikes.]
[Not pro-whamen enough] due to under-moderation.
The sub went private for the holidays because the mods need a break.... [hahahaha]
There's too many [people advocating for men] mixed in in the threads...they lack understanding about gender studies to push forward the conversation... [Again, I can't even add anything. Literally citing 'gender studies'...just when you think it can't get stupider.]
I don't think there's a productive space for men to talk about gender on Reddit currently. [For once, we agree.]
But I think if all the concept you have of gender comes from mainstream liberal feminism, the MRM narrative becomes waaay to seductive. [Fuck. Like, seriously, I was planning to add more commentary, but it all stands on its own as 'don't let men think for themselves or advocate for themselves. Anything outside of feminism is heretical.' Can't do much with this shit aside from rage. It's a cult, there's no point trying to logic it.]
And since MRAs are very much always around, posting, commenting, it ends up being too much of a risk [of men deciding to be men. It's not worth exposing these men to anything but our chosen doctrine.]
Menslib has become a stepping stone to radicalization. [...]
It is definitely one of the better male issues-centric subs, but it's not perfect. The mods do a pretty good job though. [...You're not making this easy. Or you're making it too easy, depending on perspective. I love the recurring focus on it being good or bad depending on if the mods can "curate" things enough.]
The “issues uniquely affecting men” are pretty much always the patriarchy. Feminism is for everyone. [No, fuck you, bitches.]
Through the liberation of women, all of society can be emancipated from the patriarchy. [You. Are. In. A. Fucking. Cult.]
As a mother of boys and wife to a man who struggles with masculinity issues [Remove thyself, in Minecraft.]
Alright. That was sort of cathartic, mostly depressing. That thread was something, and not for the faint of heart. That last one I quoted...ooooooof. Actually think about it...can you imagine being married to that, or having that as your mother and prime role model? Sad part is, she probably actually thinks she's a good person, too. But, oh my god, it was subtle, but probably more rage-inducing than the rest. I feel bad for the rest of her family.
Also, I still hold that Imp isn't right about women as a collective conspirator but, holy shit, fuck the radical feminists, and fuck the current "feminine" influence on society. It's a pox, and I can certainly understand how someone could reach the point where they blame all women.