Whenever the topic turns to Ukraine vs Russia, I have noticed some people coming out of woodwork to assert that Russia is corrupted country. Now I will give you that Putin is a dictator as he has been a president for a long ass time and probably ordering his subordinates to kill his political dissidents but is there a lockdown and arrest of citizens? I want to know actually as the propaganda's everywhere that exaggerates a lot of things.
I want to also ask hypothetical question, if countries like Russia, China, Canada and Britain offered people temporary asylum and actually made effort to accommodate them for not understanding their own language, what country normies will choose, I wonder?
And as for me, you probably know what I will choose.
Based on the news every person should (must) believe that Putin is a tyrannical insane dictator where his people are at the same time inhuman monsters that defend him and poor victims that are ruled over by his satanical iron fist, you should believe this (or else)
Every time a general says something that doesn't portray this they get quickly dismissed with timers (though they do keep inviting them back).
Every time someone portrays him as insane though, oh boy they will have all the time in the world.
All russian actions are warcrimes. All russian oligarchs are evil. All russians are complicit.
You will accept this as this is the story everyone is fed and if you don't you will be ostracized...... At least that is what the news wants.
But doors can be closed and not all walls have ears
The important and frightening thing is your last statement "All Russians are complicit".
It troubles me greatly, as there are many good and normal Russian men who don't want to fight in this insane war who must flee. In a just world they would be given the same asylum considerations as the supposed "Syrians" who fled.
Seeing folks here cheer on the Russian military as it sends men into a meat grinder is insane to me. It was a bad strategy in "The great patriotic war" and its a bad strategy now, but the only strategy they know.
They want people to believe russian are victims to damn putin.
That russians are complicit to permit extending the war and generally hurting russians instead of it's leadership.
That putin is insane so that people don't think about anything that is happening
That all russian oligarchs are evil to justify stealing their foreign assets.
And that all actions are war crimes to keep the war relevant and justify ever worsening measures.
Just ignore the severe economical effects of poorly thought out sanctions and blatant throwing of money and just blame the russians....not the idiots who created the actual problems in countrie that have nothing to do with the actual conflict.
Don't think about how the actor extends a war for his american masters and blame the russians for everything.
At the end of the day Ukrainian and Russian people are suffering for a war that shouldn't have started, shouldn't be continued and will be a pain to end. How many Ukrainians really support Zelensky's meat grinder of a defense over making a costly occupation, or even how many even care who lords over them ? How many Russians really want to invade their neighbours ? How many Europeans want economical collapse from retarded sanctions ? And how many Americans want to extend the war on foreign soil ?
Ignore that cause an insane man is invading a country that didn't do nothing, the evil devil is invading the poor humans and only the saintly europeans under the will of godly america can save us from damnation.
Such a grand story sold to people by lies and mass communication.
If anyone is perceived to be cheering on the Russian military it's likely because Ukraine is effectively a globohomo money laundering scheme right now. It doesnt make the war good or just but it gives plenty of reason to wish for Russia's success.
Also, unlike the average normie, the average user on this board is probably aware of the coup the US instigated in Ukraine in 2014, so regardless of anyone's opinions on Russia or Putin, it makes one more hesitant to follow the "the one who invades automatically must be the bad guy" lazy line of reasoning."
Add in extra stuff like US funded biolabs in Ukraine and Russia pushing back against certain toxic globohomo agendas and it shouldn't be hard to see why people here might root for them.
Well, just as the US found out in the middle east, when you blow up people's homes and family they will stop at nothing to kill you. Invasion isn't just bad, it's dumb. But more importantly the people who are suffering are average Ukrainian and Russian men caught in the middle.
Yeah you're not wrong there. Hopefully it ends much faster than nightmares like Iraq/Afghanistan for the US.
Not all that different from US. I know Russia's been in war with Ukraine for long but has it been to war with other countries last 30 years making up insane excuse to start war? US has been picking fights with other countries for long long time even before I was alive, I bet.
The difference is the US doesn't (yet) have a draft.
By that same token South Korea is almost as corrupt since it's mandatory for male to get drafted to receive military training. Actually I find Korea to be worse as they openly brainwash children from young age to be patriotic and exaggerate the cruelty of certain enemy country.
And by the fact that there was no response to the question has Russia started any war other than Ukraine, I'm going to guess Russia is relatively stable.