Re: Jordan Peterson
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I actually think there's a real problem here that we're not taking into consideration. The anonymity allows us to challenge things without us assigning a fucking home address for some psycho troon to come visit us in the middle of the night, or slash our tires, or send our employer a bomb threat.
However, it also means that yeah: you are just a bunch of random idiots online that can simply be ignored. There is no actual force involving real life people, and it's quite hard not to simply be dismissed as a troll, a shill, a bot, or a fake account. One of the most useful things in the MAGA movement were it's massive 'shows of force' by having convoys and rallies. It proved that the populist movement exists and contains nearly 100 million people in the US.
The anonymity also disguises what is and what is not a real force of political will. One of the problems with Twitter is that since it was curated for Leftists, and remained so large, it became a stand-in for actual polling and constituency. The reason the Overton Window pushed so hard left is because of Twitter, and an infinite number of snarky Leftist accounts asserting that they were the absolute majority of all people in the US, despite actually being (at most) 8% of the population.
To this day, we can see this between the conflict of MAGA and Antifa: MAGA still clearly generates massive public events, with no one covering their faces, and is slowly churning through the GOP's establishment; while Antifa numbers maybe 10,000 across the whole US, but is effectively establishment shock-troops that conduct the majority of all political violence in the US. They are effectively the janny-sary (tranny-sary?) units of the establishment, and arresting a few hundred of them can basically cease their operations, while arresting nearly 700 people involved in January 6 has done nothing to slow the tide for MAGA, and much more aggressive tactics have to be used against them at all levels. In very literal terms, MAGA's lack of anonymity is one of the reasons it is a serious political force, attracted more attention, and is capable of taking more attrition than Antifa, which ends up being so small that the establishment pretends it isn't even real.
Goofy named internet avatars have their utility in exploring ideas, but we need real people in order to actually advocate for those ideas. You do have to interact with normies, and you do have to interact with your neighbors. I'm not saying abolish anonymity, but it's utility has limits.
While the rallies are indeed great, people have lost their jobs just for being seen at one.
Including basketball Hall-of-Famer Kevin McHale, who lost his broadcast job because he was spotted at a Trump rally. That hurt me, since I love the sport. But fuck the NBA.
By the way, nice reference to the Janissaries. Take the little children, raise them as your own, corrupt them, and 20+ years later they form the invading force that kills their birth parents and burns their birth town.
That's just proving my point, though. The anonymity protects people, but pushing people into anonymous online spaces is being done on purpose to reduce the political power of the whole. Putting your face, IRL influence, and credibility on the line is exactly what the Left is trying to dissuade people from engaging in because it gives your influence and credibility to the narrative you're arguing.
Also, Jannysaries or Trannysaries: which do you prefer to use?
The latter. They go after children.
Trannysaries it is.