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Ye, Nick Fuentes, and Milo went on TimcastIRL today
posted 2 years ago by Unknownsailor 2 years ago by Unknownsailor +52 / -0
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– Vicious_snek6 9 points 2 years ago +10 / -1

but at least he doesn't fuck with kids.

Watch the razorfist rants about this, there's a lot of evidence he didn't.

The main accuser, his dad called and was leaving messages saying things along the lines of "give us money or we'll cost you your job" and not "you motherfucker, im gunna tear your fucking throat out for touching my kid you sick freak". It was a shakedown.

His lawyers then advised paying which opened up the flood gates.

"they stayed in the same bedroom"

Macaulay Culkin: Yeah "bedroom", its more like a separate area of a 2 story house, it was an entire wing of the mansion, you don't.

I believe Michael was done dirty. Was exonerated on 14+ counts in record time.

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– dekachin 1 point 2 years ago +2 / -1

I have no doubt that later on some parents tried to cash in and shake him down, but I thought there was some decent evidence with the earlier kids he got caught with.

In August 1993, Jackson was accused of child sexual abuse by a 13-year-old boy, Jordan Chandler, and his father, Evan Chandler.[191] Jordan said he and Jackson had engaged in acts of kissing, masturbation and oral sex.[192]

In January 1994, Jackson settled with the Chandlers out of court for a reported total sum of $23 million.[202] The police never pressed criminal charges.[203] Citing a lack of evidence without Jordan's testimony, the state closed its investigation on September 22, 1994.

It's tough to believe you'd pay a liar $23 million. It makes you look super guilty.

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– Vicious_snek6 3 points 2 years ago +4 / -1

It does. And he perhaps shouldn't have in hindsight. But it also (as the argument went at the time) shuts the whole thing up and makes it go away just before going on a major tour. Going through a massive publicized trial instead of this big tour for this crime also makes you look super guilty. Pay the danegeld...

Its also a quirk of asinine california law. For reasons, you have a civil case in these matters, before the criminal one. Which is insane, you have to effectivelly show the prosecution everything you'll be preparing with and giving them extra ammo well before the criminal one. So it can be a far safer bet to settle the civil one, rather than give the state extra ammo. You're jeopardizing your criminal trial by engaging in the civil, which is ass backwards.

in normal circumstances because of the californial system, settling would have been a smart decision, hard as that pill is to swallow.

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– dekachin 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

There is nothing weird about California law in this context. I'm a california lawyer.

you have a civil case in these matters, before the criminal one.

The civil and criminal case can happen at the same time, neither waits for the other. Criminal cases move MUCH faster than civil cases as a matter of right since the Defendant can demand speedy trial.

you have to effectivelly show the prosecution everything you'll be preparing with and giving them extra ammo well before the criminal one.

That's not true. The cops can just raid you and take everything they want. Civil discovery is a joke next to that. I routinely have opposing parties blatantly lie to me and say "we don't have those documents" when I ask for evidence that would be helpful to my case, and 90% of the time, the judge lets them get away with it.

If a civil party just wants to tell you to fuck off in civil discovery and is willing to lie, you're fucked. However, in criminal cases, there is no "discovery" from the defendant when the prosecutor wants something, instead, the cops just kick your door in and take everything they want.

You're jeopardizing your criminal trial by engaging in the civil, which is ass backwards.

Not really, but most of the time the civil waits until after criminal because the civil lawyers want to be able to freeload off the government's search and seizure powers to get all kinds of juicy evidence they'd never be able to get in a civil case.

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