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Elon torches Gary Kasparov (archive.ph)
posted 3 years ago by AntonioOfVenice 3 years ago by AntonioOfVenice +29 / -0
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– dekachin 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

does anybody in the West even know what a "win" for Ukraine even looks like at this point?

Yes, very obviously:

  1. Russia throws in the towel and agreed to pull out on terms Ukraine agrees to.

  2. Ukraine drives the Russians out of Ukrainian territory through military force despite Russia's best efforts to stop them.

Simple as.

I'm serious, what are our objectives here?

Defendant the innocent and the righteous against an evil, imperialistic aggressor.

retaking Crimea and assaulting a Russian naval base?

Ukrainian naval base, temporarily occupied by Russia. And Ukraine has already hit it with missiles, so idk why you're pretending it's shocking to attack it.

The total destruction of Russia as a military power?

That's pretty much already happened by this point. Russia is losing to UKRAINE, one of the poorest countries in Europe. Pretty sure the Baltic states could take Russia 1v1 at this point.

no matter the cost in Ukrainian lives or territory - and I'm not sure the people of Ukraine would pick that one if they were given any choice at all in the matter.

You don't care what Ukraine wants. Ukraine wants to fight and win. And it is entirely up to them. The West has no say, except to threaten to cut Ukraine off, which isn't going to happen.

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– Hellsbells00 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Tell that to all the ukrainian citizens conscripted for trying to leave to avoud a war they didn't want.

Ukraine post 2014 is a CIA puppet, and the citizens are being sacrificed to enrich the MIC and politicians.

The Ukrainian government took actions that make no logical sense without that being the rationale. Threatening Russia and cutting off water to Crimea were idiotic moves if that government was interested in preserving the Ukrainian people.

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– dekachin 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Ukraine post 2014 is a CIA puppet

Putinbot Derangement Syndrome.

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– Hellsbells00 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I see you have no actual reply. Nothing I said was pro russia. It was anti-war, and opposing the actions the ukrainian government took that were deliberate provications of an enemy with the capability and lack of care about collateral to destroy them.

It was either retarded, or deliberate. And assuming globalists do retarded shit instead of seeing their reasoning is how things got this bad everywhere.

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– APDSmith 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

OK, firstly, lobbing munitions at a naval base is not the same thing as retaking it from the invaders. One's liable to draw a rather more considerable response than the other, especially with how uncertain things are regarding Russian leadership at the moment.

Also, Russia is losing to a Ukraine that's being gifted vast quantities of munitions and training, courtesy of your taxes and mine. Ukraine might well be the poorest country in Europe; her army enjoys access to very expensive toys.

Lastly, you're right, I don't care what Ukraine wants. I care about being made to pay for it, whether I want to or not. Or, more realistically, I care because my children will end up paying for this.

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– dekachin 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

One's liable to draw a rather more considerable response than the other

Russia is already "responding" as hard as it can, and yet it's still getting its ass kicked. It's not like Ukraine cares about making Russia "mad". Bombing the Kerch bridge made Russia launch maximum escalation and retaliation. So it's already happening. Russia can't do more.

The only reason it isn't using nukes is because the rest of the world would assfuck Russia to oblivion if it did, so the Russians are making a risk/reward calculus like Hitler did with chemical weapons and not using them.

Also, Russia is losing to a Ukraine that's being gifted vast quantities of munitions and training

The total amount of military aid to Ukraine is something like $10b. Meanwhile Ukraine's total military budget was $6b versus Russia at $70b. Russia still enjoys a huge budget advantage even with the aid, and yet it's still losing badly.

her army enjoys access to very expensive toys.

not really. HIMARS isn't even considered expensive or high tech. It's just the STANDARD US rocket artillery. The "expensive toys" for the US are aircraft.

I care about being made to pay for it, whether I want to or not.

The money given to Ukraine of 10-20b is a tiny fraction of biden's total spending of $7t, representing something like 0.2%.

Where are your posts whining about the other 99.8%? Funny how suddenly fiscal conservatism only comes roaring out with Ukraine but not anything else.

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– APDSmith 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

OK, for starters, as a Brit I'm merely aghast at US federal spending rather than being directly affected by it; for seconds, what makes you think my antipathy is restricted to the matter of Ukraine?

Your own biases, and only these, have lead you to this conclusion about me. They are in error.

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