I feel like this is very obvious to most people, but is really... Not something we are "allowed" to admit to, at least officially.
It's a very strange time, in this sort of... "Mental health" space. On the one hand we have literally thousands of Tiktok, Instagram, Snapchat and Tumblr posts by edgy teens claiming to have mental issues, whether they actually do or not, and capitalising on that "brand", while on the other hand... The way we actually treat this shit is fundamentally not working...
Look, I appreciate that brain chemistry plays a role in most mental health issues. So does trauma. So does genetics. But the fact that "we", as a society, choose to pretend like depression and anxiety are purely caused by internal problems, and can be treated almost solely as such? That's frankly fucking insane...
The fact that men, in particular, are treated like it is their... Fault, that they are suffering, even if they are poor, even if they have a shit job, or are lonely, or have no friends that they can rely on, or are dealing with... Personal issues from having seen, or experienced, really bad shit... The fact that we say "just go to therapy" or "just take the pill, bro", or "just smoke some weed, bro. It'll help" - frankly it's fucked.
The sheer lack of support in society, to actually... Help people, and do more than just talk. To actually offer practical solutions, and get people truly connected to their society (men's sheds are great and all, but they fundamentally fail to replace what church, and the local sports team, say, once provided), and defeat that... Isolation, that has become the heart of "modern society". That's where the fundamental problems lie, I think. Let alone, say, if you get laid off, or sacked, or lose your position somehow - there is NO support, for most people, when that happens. None at all.
No wonder people fall through the cracks. No wonder we hear about people like Paul Green (rugby league coach - sacked), Jacinda Barclay and Harley Balic (AFL, womens and men's respectively - left out of their team squads during Covid) killing themselves, let alone "ordinary" people who generally have even less support, and certainly considerably less money to play with...
The whole thing is just... Pretty fucked up, frankly. Leftists constantly whine about Catholicism teaching "the flock" to "externalise blame", but now we have a secular society that teaches everyone to, in essence, BOTH externalise and internalise blame, both at the same time, which is... Probably not any healthier, frankly.
I just wish "we", in Current Era, dealt with these things better than we do.
The "defeated people" thing is interesting - because Aboriginal suicide rates (in remote communities) are incredibly high, with children below 10 now killing themselves, with regularity (perhaps unsurprising. Being a female child in one of those communities comes with a startlingly high likelihood of being raped or abused by a male family member/"elder"), but all these "reconciliation measures" which are currently destroying the fabric of Australian society, much like Canada, have done less than zero to change that.
In fact, they've arguably made it much worse, by, for example, allowing alcohol back into these communities, to appease woke retards in the major cities, even if the communities themselves don't want it.
It's fucked. The only people who benefit are dumb white liberals and university-educated, city-dwelling grifters, meanwhile the rest of us "huwhites" are made to feel like "colonising scum", told that we can't even refer to our cities and towns by their actual names, and generally completely disenfranchised...
I can imagine Victorians under Dan Andrews probably felt fairly close to a "defeated people", for much of the last two years. With zero power to change anything, and a political system that actively admitted to hating them, gestapo and all, unless they submitted to worshipping "dear leader"...
Similar in NSW, Qld and WA, to a lesser extent. The disenfranchisement be real...
Well that got dark, quick.
Here's my contribution:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/sep/05/death-of-nine-year-old-boy-renews-alarm-over-indigenous-suicides
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-25/nt-coronor-suicide-in-foster-care-inquest-findings/100649618
And
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/the-oz/news/should-remote-indigenous-communities-have-unrestricted-access-to-alcohol/news-story/09f58c509728f39f87a3c496311bf5f5
Shit is absolutely fucked, unfortunately...
Here's the end result of what this stuff leads to, as well:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-30/how-symmie-survived-against-a-rare-health-condition/11564470 (extreme fetal alcohol syndrome)
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/family-sacrificed-baby-girl-found-washed-up-on-gold-coast-beach-20181121-p50hc3.html (literal baby sacrifice, very much like what you were talking about. By an Aboriginal woman who was fortunate enough to go to a private boarding school, no less)
Yeah, things are not great, in this field...
The Symmie thing left me in despair, when I read it. It's how I remembered it, to be able to immediately pull that story up when it is relevant, lol (if you feel like more trauma, look up Turia Pitt. I don't think she's Aboriginal. It's just fucking depressing)...
Fitzroy River, where she was born, is the shithole to end all shitholes. I don't even know an equivalent in America - some terrible tribal reservation in North Dakota, maybe? Or Nome, Alaska?
It's just a terrible, terrible depressing place.
Bizarrely, though, it's in a naturally beautify area (because of course it is), and my parents were trying to convince me to go on a cruise holiday that stops in there, for a day...
I noped out of that one pretty damn quick, lol.
Highest rates of fetal alcohol syndrome in the country (I believe), and knowing about that story, was enough, for me, frankly...
They can blame whitey all they want, but their natural tendencies to molest children, sniff petrol and fucking drink themselves to death, en masse, while still being offered free welfare and most every provision under the sun (except the option to flee these shitholes - funny that) suggests problems that I'm not sure can be blamed on something that occurred, at worst, three generations ago...
And yet, I get death threats from their "city cousins" for merely wanting to point out that mountains belong to all citizens of a free country, not just "blak" men. Go figure...
It's just sad, man. It really is...
More real life horror payback (I owe you one :-P), if you want...
Look up Katie Stubblefield - world's first full face transplant (human, at least).
I won't subject you to a link, because it is genuinely... It will haunt you.
I unironically do not think the end result is "good enough" that she will be able to live with it, for the rest of her life. Not after that. But hey, what do I know.
But yeah, it... Genuinely still disturbs me, and I first saw it probably two years ago.
It's burned into my mind.
For an "eyebleach", of sorts, the girl who survived White Island still has a mostly intact, if scarred, face, and still looks normal-ish, so that's nice. But yeah, Katie and Turia (see below) - well, some fates are worse than death, I would say.
But Turia at least seems happy enough, if insane, lol.
There are many 'defeated peoples' who do just fine on this score, and even do much better than the 'victor peoples' both in terms of health and economics.
Maybe it depends on what framework you have for explaining your suffering. It was seen in concentration camps that people can endure almost anything (only mentally, of course), as long as they attach meaning to what they are enduring.
Aboringals and blacks in the US don't have that. Their suffering, historical and/or imagined, has no deeper meaning to them, so it bothers them a lot. At the same time, it's being harped on all the time, keeping the wounds fresh.
Your surprise that the advocacy of white liberals on behalf of any group has no relation at all to the benefit of that group is misplaced. This is very common. As Sowell describes, they adopt mascots for the gratification of their own ego, and nothing more.
If it is any consolation, the non-huwhites are also completely disenfranchised. You gain power by disenfranchising others, which is why they do it.
But we're not going to surrender, we're not going to give in, because while they have to imagine oppression and tyranny to fight against in order to feel noble, we have the real thing.
There are many ways in which someone can undermine the ruling classes and the system even from the position of being suppressed. If people like Solzhienitzyn and Sakharov could do it in the Soviet Union, so can we.
There's a lot of rightful anger around this "National Park closure (to white people" business. I'm not sure how, but I'm going to join in the campaign to use that anger, and try to push for a fight back. Because I've never seen a government so clearly admit their intention to enforce tyrannical, racist law like this...
If you haven't seen it yet, the NSW government is proposing half million dollar fines for using an existing walking track, and climbing a mountain that is very popular with tourists (Mount Warning), both domestic and international...
$550 thousand. For climbing a mountain.
And they plan to "ban" the use of images of the mountain, too (because apparently they can do that).
Hopefully that should be enough to piss normies off.
Culture war, woohoo!
And only if you are not aboriginal? That is insane, but not surprising - governments are despotisms.
Normies have close to no influence. It is highly organized, highly politicized minorities who do. Unless things go so bad to drive the normies in to organized groups opposing the status quo, it will be of no effect.