LAB: 54% (+9)
CON: 21% (-7)
LDEM: 7% (-2)
GRN: 6% (-1)
As far as polls go, this is pretty crazy. The left-wing parties have 2/3 of the vote - more than three times what the Conservatives have.
However, this proves that this is all about economics. England is in an economic free-fall thanks to the incompetent Truss (according to some people because women are trying to crash the economy).
I mean, look…
Labour will not be good. There is no question of that. But the Cameron/May/Johnson/Truss government has been so wildly incompetent, so corrupt, so ideologically inconsistent, so wasteful and so… I hate to say it, but undemocratic and unprincipled that they just… I can see how people want the alternative, regardless of what the alternative may be.
They’ve completely failed to govern. For most of this year. As has the DUP in NI.
No shit people are going to be looking elsewhere in some vain hope they might find some “leadership” lurking there. Because frankly this government does not deserve to be there.
Anyone who votes for Labour because they're disappointed that the Tories are Labour Lite is brain damaged. It's far better to "waste your vote" on a third party that represents your interests than to vote for the enemy.
Obviously. It may even be for the better. They're not good for much now, are they? Let them rediscover what people want in opposition.
I agree. I just worry rather what Labour may do, when they get in, and how it may push the Cons to the left as a wedge…
The Spectator has written about this way better than I ever could, but you see that phenomenon across the (non-US) Anglosphere, with the left currently in power in Canada, Aus, Ireland, Scotland and NZ, and the opposition… Not doing a very good job of “opposing” anything…
Which says a lot about parliamentary “democracy”, frankly…
I honestly thought the (weak, corrupt, vaxx-worshipping) neoliberal “conservative” government losing in Aus back in May might at least shake things up a bit, but honestly, the rate we are going, here, under Labor now, I’m actually not sure we’ll even still have a democracy to vote in, by the time of the next election (hyperbole, but… See: “The Indigenous Voice”, for what I mean), so…
Be careful what you wish for, i guess.
Sadly, Labo(u)r can always fuck it up even more than it already is…
Cons tend to move right in opposition and left in government. They need to fool people into 'voting' for them when they are in opposition, so they have to pretend to care about what people think - or the system will lose even more legitimacy.
It's not better in presidential 'democracies'. Or any other system. It is a universal law that any system will be an oligarchy, no matter how 'democratic' or dictatorial it is on paper.
I do not fear that, because we certainly do not have a democracy, and our elections are a farce where we can choose between Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum. And insofar as they make noises about being different, they always betray these promises in office.
But at least there will be a chance of getting to choose between good and bad. Now it is between bad and worse. That is never enviable. It's like choosing between Obama and Romney.