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posted 2 years ago by Vaterland 2 years ago by Vaterland +67 / -1
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– SoctaticMethod1 -10 points 2 years ago +3 / -13

It's ok to question the validity of the reports of how many died

But when we found the camps, mass graves, the lampshade made of human skin, the containers of gas, actually still alive malnourished prisoners, and the fact that even the Soviets found them and went "this is fucked up", kinda leans on yeah it happened.

It's like the moon landings, yeah they happened because

  1. we placed mirrors on the surface to bounce lasers off to calculate distance

  2. The Soviets didn't even deny it

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– realerfunction 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

the soviets are the only ones that found them

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– SoctaticMethod1 -1 points 2 years ago +3 / -4

The Americans did Japanese interment and the Japanese did Unit 731 (which the Americans let them walk and paid for all their research) and the allies did Dresden

The Soviet Union had gulags and one of them literally turned into an island of cannibals. This was all known but was willfully ignored or people fained ignorance to avoid being sent to them. After Stalin died and Khrushchev took over, he basically said "here's all the awful shit we did under him that forced the people into a cult under his rule"

The information is freely and easily available (in any country with Internet and no massive firewall) but a lot of people don't care to seek this knowledge until it begins to directly affect them. We can blame the media and national education but it is the task of every person to learn from history or be doomed to repeat it.

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– SoctaticMethod1 1 point 2 years ago +3 / -2

I mean it in this sense, I learnt none of this information from school or a year I spent in A level history. I learnt it all through gathering information from different sources, books , documentaries etc because I had the drive to pursue it, to gain more knowledge, understanding our past actions and noticing the patterns of repetition.

On of the things I HATE modern education for is killing that drive to pursue knowledge, that everything has to be standardised for one test and a one mold fits all policy for learning. Not everyone wants to learn, I grant that, but school seems intent on stopping that outside thinking and it's our fault for not encouraging homeschooling more over state education. It makes it easier to just not teach things when a lot of parents go 'meh they can handle it'

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– DomitiusOfMassilia [M] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Comment Reported for: Rule 16 - Identity attacks

Comment Approved: yeah I get the "cohencidence" comment, but this isn't actually an attack on an identity group. In fact, he's complaining about attacks on an identity group.

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– MaverickBoobies -6 points 2 years ago +1 / -7

So neonazis will not view you as human. Why do you defend them so much? Is it the religion?

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